Re: NTLK newton books

From: Bill Davis (newton@ecity.net)
Date: Thu Jan 06 2000 - 02:02:41 EST


On 1/3/00 12:46 AM, Chris Ruprecht [mailto:chrup@earthlink.net] wrote:

>>I don't think there is any way to convert PDF files directly to Newton
>>books, but you could copy and paste stuff into NewtonPress. I think you
>>can still buy NewtonPress from Apple (probably Software Fulfillment) or
>>if not, you may be able to find it at NewtonCage or someplace.
>
>Not quite - since PDF files are not cut and pastable.

You're mistaken. They most certainly ARE cut and pastable. I just did it
using standard free Acrobat Reader 3.0, to be sure I wasn't wrong.

Pull down the TOOLS menu and pick "Select text" or "Select graphics".

You can't do them both TOGETHER, but you definitely can grab the text and
graphics from a PDF file for pasting elsewhere. I'm not sure what the
latest Reader can do.

>One should never be able to export the information which is held within a
PDF
>file into anything. I think, this is one of the fundamental ideas
>behind that format. Once something has been published in that format,
>no 3rd party is able to make any changes to the info.

Nope. The fundamental idea behind PDF is that it is VIEWABLE on any
platform with an PDF viewer, without you having to worry about having the
necessary fonts (they can be built into the PDF) or viewer for the word
processing or graphics file format used.

I think I recall that you CAN set individual PDF files so they CAN'T be
copied from when created with Acrobat (but I don't own/use Acrobat so I
may be wrong.)

>>Or you could download 'em into a web browser like NetHopper that lets you
>>"lock" items into it's cache.
>
>Unfortunately, that's all it does - I have not yet found a way to
>move them into anywhere from there.

Get a program like Twerx (there are several around) that add an item to
the routing menu (next to print/beam/fax) that lets you "route" the
document to the Notepad or NewtonWorks.

Or just use Newt's Cape, since it DOES what you want to accomplish.

There's even a web page on Adobe's site with a service that'll take a PDF
file anywhere on the Internet and make HTML pages out of it - Steve Weyer
mentions it on his pages somewhere. I may be misremembering, but I have
these two URL's in my bookmarks:

http://access.adobe.com/

or more specifically:

http://access.adobe.com/simple_form.html
http://access.adobe.com/adv_form.html

 - Bill

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