Re: Software piracy woes in the face of unknown options. Was: NTLK Lo oking For NCU For Mac

From: doppler (doppler@mac.com)
Date: Fri Aug 11 2000 - 11:20:01 CDT


id gladly pay steve a couple of bucks, as well as the person whod do the
port. why not rally a bunch of programmers to make this port reality on the
mac?

what i also would like to see is IrDA-capablity to synch or, at least
export/import docs. that would make it possible to extract/import data
without any cables or connections, which is quite useful on the road.

if the programmers would let the translators be an open-source project, wed
probably soon see many implementations for such things as MS ALPACA (MS
Office 2001/PIM) - Names, Project - BluePrint, Word - Works etc.

Jim Anderson [jiman@microsoft.com] wrote 00-08-03 19.11:

> This is a long piece of mail. You have been warned.
>
> This thread seems to have migrated from a request for Mac NCU to a
> discussion of the morality of software piracy. I don't want to debate
> whether or not it is moral to use a copy of software that you can't
> otherwise get, but it seems from reading the license that came with my copy
> of NCU (as well as the fact that Apple gives away the NCU beta updater on
> their support website, but not the full version) that "pirating" a copy of
> the software is illegal.
> This puts Newton users with Macs in a quandary. As far as I know
> (I'm not a Mac person), NCU is the only way for Mac users to do backups,
> install packages and import and export documents (in one package). If Apple
> is indeed selling NCU for the Mac (which isn't really clear), then the only
> legitimate route for getting a copy of Mac NCU would be to buy it from
> Apple. This means that if you don't already own a copy of it, the only way
> to do backups, etc, is to pay Apple some money.
> Note, however, that NCU isn't really the only solution, if you don't
> mind using several means to accomplish your goals. Newton Backup Utilities
> for the Mac are available free for downloading from Apple. NBU lets you do
> backups and restore, as well as to install packages. If you have a TCP/IP
> connection between your Newton and the outside world (through a modem,
> Ethernet, whatever), you can email data to and from your Newton as well as
> NCU would be able to transfer them. I use the windows version of NCU at
> work, and I can attest that simplemail does a better job of handling Notes
> and Works documents than Windows NCU can.
> In addition, anyone who can program Macs who wants to be a hero
> should take a look at NewtonLink. This is a desktop app that runs on Unix
> systems and provides the best data transfer with Newtons that I've ever
> seen. I use this at home, and every time I run it I'm tempted to port it to
> Windows and throw away that buggy behemoth that is NCU. NewtonLink does
> backups and restore, package installation, and data transfer between the
> Newton (Notes, Dates, Names, etc) and a whole fistful of Unix PIMs. Since
> NewtonLink is open source software, anyone can legally get the source code
> and modify it at will. Mac port, anyone? The only caveat about NewtonLink is
> that it requires you to have sloup on your Newton. I for one, however, would
> far rather pay Steve Weyer $10 for sloup (free when you register NewtsCape)
> than pay Apple $35 (or whatever they want for NCU).

                      roman pixell

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