Re: NTLK What in the world is this?

From: Ed Kummel (tech_ed@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Mar 18 2000 - 23:38:20 EST


If I remember correctly, when the GRiD died, didn't
another take it's place called the Dauphin?
I seem to remember that when I talked to the inventor
of the GRiD (a small non-imposing oriental man, whom I
can't remember his name to save my life) he was going
to sell it to Tandy and create the Dauphin. This was
going to have voice entry and a color screen (but the
Fujitsu Stylistic beat him to it)
Here is an entire board on the GRiD
http://www.pd.com/gbother/wwwboard.html

Then after Tandy bought it, the farmed out its
manufacturing to Panasonic...or was that before Tandy
bought it...Damn, my memory is like swiss cheese on
this!

You know what's sad...I read this board and it shows a
loyal following of a small band of diehards trying
their best to keep the platform viable in the face of
certain ruin...Pleas for implementing Linux, folks
struggling to get replacment batteries...One or two
folks who specialize in non-standard upgrades...One
person who even tweaks the OS...I hate to say it, but
that group looks like us in several years...It's sad
really. I can't imagine what it would be like without
my Newt by my side...yet, this GRiD group is now a
rag-tag mottley group of affictionados clinging
desperatly to the last vestige of hope...thinking that
they can still maintain their platform's viability, at
any cost!
(deep breath...)
Yeah, oh well, we aren't there yet!
Ed
web/gadget guru

--- Sunder <sunder@anon7b.sunder.net> wrote:
> Yup, if it is a GRID 386, then he's better off with
> an IBM ThinkPad 730T,
> I've recently picked one up and it's great. That is
> if you run PenPoint
> on it. Don't run Windows 95. Yuck. :) The problem
> with the 730T's is
> that they have no ports whatsoever, until you buy a
> port replicator or a
> field kit.
>
> I don't know why they call it a port replicator when
> it doesn't replicate
> anything. But there it is. These 730T's can be had
> for about $75. The
> replicators are about $30. But keep in mind, these
> are 486sl's running at
> 25 or 30Mhz - so they're slower than Newts.
>
> These come usually with 8MB of RAM and a 100Mb IBM
> type III ATA hard
> drive... But beware, you WILL want to get a port
> replicator, else they're
> useless. I'm still waiting for mine. I managed to
> get penpoint on it by
> mounting the PCMCIA disk in my desktop which I
> bought a PCMCIA drive bay
> for several years ago...
>
> The screens on these are beautiful 640x480 16
> grayscale. They're really
> like paper. Very readable. I'm envious that my
> MP2100 doesn't have the
> same look.... The pens aren't touch sensitive per
> say, they're magnetic.
> You can turn on a mouse like feature where if you
> hover the pen over the
> screen you will see a pointer appear. When you
> touch the screen it
> writes....
>
> The AT&T EO 880 is a much nicer machine, but not an
> Intel based at all.
> These are close to impossible to get. I just got a
> DOA one. :( But
> they've got VGA out, serial, parallel, ps/2 keyboard
> *AND* SCSI!!! as
> well as a Type III PCMCIA, and internal 64Mb disk.
> There's even a cell
> phone kit that turns the EO into a celular
> fax/data/phone. You might
> remember back in 93 or so AT&T ran a bunch of
> commercials saying "Have you
> ever sent a fax from the beach? You will... and the
> company to bring it
> to you - AT&T" But they failed miserably because
> our mutual green friends
> killed it off. :)
>
> I wish mine was working. Sigh.... Alas, it seems to
> have a dead ROM
> board.
>
> Beware though, PenPoint's handwriting recognition
> sucks ass - just like
> the original Newton 1.x devices.... Worse yet, it
> doesn't recognize
> gestures while you write. It's modal for fuck's
> sake! You have to tap a
> pen icon to switch to editing/writing. Yuck. (This
> applies to both
> EO and the 730T, and possibly the GRID.)
>
> As a trivia question - the EO uses the Hobbit 94010
> CPU. The original
> Newton plans were to use the same chip!
>
> Personally I'd love to have an EO sized Newton with
> lots of RAM and the
> 64Mb hard drive the EO's have running Newton
> Intelligence 2.1 of course.
> :)
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Victor Rehorst wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 ThisOlNewt@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I was browsing e-bay and came across this......
> > >
> > >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=284377339
> >
> > It's a GRiD. I guess you could call it part of
> the first generation of
> > pen-based computers (along with the AT&T Eo, and a
> few others). This is
> > obviously pre-Newton. I've never actually seen or
> used one, but I think
> > Bill Davis has one. Off the top of my head, they
> run Intel 80386
> > processors and used to use Windows 3.1 for Pen
> Computing (a special hacked
> > together version of Windows).
>
>
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