No one wants my MP120 writeright?
I'll turf it in the bin then... no use to me any more.
Email me if u do. free post in Australia.
:o)
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
To: "newtontalk digest users" <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 12:37 AM
Subject: newtontalk Digest V1 #332
> newtontalk Digest Sat, 10 Nov 2001 Volume: 01 Issue: 332
>
> In This Issue:
> Re: [NTLK] Custom draw stamps and other questions
> Re: [NTLK] GUI 'n stuff
> Re: [NTLK] Not really Re: Platform crap...
> Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PDA anymore?
> Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PDA anymore?
> Re: [NTLK] ser-oo1 screws (was PCBMan depart)
> Re: [NTLK] Newt sports scout prog (was AZ Republic)
> Re: [NTLK] Newt sports scout prog (was AZ Republic)
> Re: [NTLK] Checking in / iPod Comments...
> Re: [NTLK] Checking in / iPod Comments...
> Re: [NTLK] Best Software
> Re: [NTLK] LOTR (Lord of the Rings) in Newton Book format
> [NTLK] WriteRights longevity
> [NTLK] Comparison pages?
> Re: [NTLK] Comments on off topic messages of late [OT]
> [NTLK] books, pics and mods for download
> Re: [NTLK] D-Link 660 Mac driver
> Re: [NTLK] OT: Kafka "Penal colony" - copyright and translat
> Re: [NTLK] WriteRights longevity
> Re: [NTLK] AW: Leverage 3.1 Software
> Re: [NTLK] D-Link 660 Mac driver
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Not really Re: Platform crap...
> From: R Pickett <emerson_at_hayseed.net>
> Date: 10 Nov 2001 01:06:07 -0800
>
> On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 00:51, Jon Glass wrote:
> > I know what addicted me to the keyboard--WordStar. It's wonderful
"home-row"
> > commands, and the "dot commands" were wonderfully lightening-fast for
touch
> > typists. There has never been another program that was so thoroughly
> > integrated with the keyboard in such a natural, usable manner, and,
frankly,
> > sometimes I miss it...
>
> vi -- a -real- keyboard user's editor. I do everything in it, even lots
> of my mail.
>
> --
> R Pickett The people that once bestowed commands, consulships,
> Hayseed Networks legions, and all else, now meddles no more and longs
> emerson_at_hayseed.net eagerly for just two things -- bread and circuses.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:16:32 -0800
> Subject: [NTLK] Comments on off topic messages of late
> From: Gary Zambrano <Gazam_at_mac.com>
>
>
> > And behalf of the off-topicers, if I may, I offer this truce. If we let
> > an off topic message slip by us without marking it, we will apologize
and
> > not let loose with the rant of 'hey, I'll talk about anything I damn
well
> > feel like'. And we'll promise to do better.
> >
> > Does this sound fair to everyone?
>
> No.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 04:22:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] What's needed for Java programming
> From: Steve Weyer <weyer_at_kagi.com>
>
>
> > From: Frank_Gruendel_at_t-online.de (Frank Gruendel)
> >
> >> You need
> >> to become a master in reading manuals and copy and paste as well as in
> >> software design this days
> >
> > Actually I think that this is an outdated strategy these days.
> > Yesterday I spent about three hours that way trying to solve a
particular
> > Java problem. Then I gave up and had a look at www.deja.com. Not
suprising,
> > someone else has had the same problem around 1998 and has posted the
> > solution. The solution was the first entry in the list of found search
> > results, copying it and pasting it into my code was a matter of seconds.
> > This were three hours I could have definitely spent better...
>
>
> I've found the "deja" approach quite useful also.
>
> recently with newtVNC, I wanted a vertical slider
> (only built-in proto is horizontal). did a search on deja,
> found the answer from a few years back -- curious thing was the poster was
> me ;-)
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:34:55 +0100
> From: Paul Guyot <pguyot_at_kallisys.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Custom draw stamps and other questions
>
>
> >- On a similar subject: do I have any chance of finding _internal_
> >memory extension somewhere?
>
> No, especially since David Humphrey's left the ship.
>
> >- I downloaded 'Euro-installer 1.0b1' of Kallisys. The license
> >agreement says it can't be used after januari 1st 1999. If I want to
> >update my 'currency exchange' program to Euro's, is there some other
> >way?
>
> No, it's not what the license says. It has a clause (back from the
> time I was writing software as part of my consulting business, it
> seems eons ago to me) which says that it cannot be used on a computer
> manufactured after January the 1st (the idea was that in case Apple
> would come back with a Newton I would have to come up with new
> licensing schemes).
>
> I won't say all that is crap as I don't want to give up the other
> clauses of the license, but you're granted the right to freely use
> this software.
>
> Once the KRL (http://www.kallisys.org/reflexive/) is finalized and/or
> approved by the OSI, EuroInstaller among other software will be
> re-licensed to it (basically all the Newton free software I wrote
> which can be open sourced). Just give me time, as usual.
>
> Paul
> --
> Home page: http://www.kallisys.com/
> Newton-powered WebServer: http://newt.dyndns.org:8080/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:42:09 +0100
> From: Paul Guyot <pguyot_at_kallisys.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] GUI 'n stuff
>
>
> >* flower key (that way reset becomes command-flower-power :-)
>
> Shouldn't it be control-flower-power rather?
>
> BTW, isn't the Newton keyboard the latest keyboard manufactured with
> an Apple logo ONLY on the command key?
>
> Seen how I bring this on topic again? :) I'm glad I switched to
> digest, because among iPod, Copyright, abandonware, Apple, OS flame
> wars, Java, outlook, super computers, verizon DSL, etc. I seem to
> have lost the main topic of this list.
>
> Paul
> --
> Home page: http://www.kallisys.com/
> Newton-powered WebServer: http://newt.dyndns.org:8080/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Mikebridg_at_aol.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 05:48:54 EST
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Not really Re: Platform crap...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/11/01 8:57:16 am, jonglass_at_usa.net writes:
>
> << I know what addicted me to the keyboard--WordStar. It's wonderful
> "home-row"
> commands, and the "dot commands" were wonderfully lightening-fast for
touch
> typists. There has never been another program that was so thoroughly
> integrated with the keyboard in such a natural, usable manner, and,
frankly,
> sometimes I miss it... >>
>
> DIdiyou ever try to layout something complicated without a 'print' view
was a
> real pain - we were very glad to get a 500k mac and leave WordStar behind,
> but our typists hated the change and missed the dot commands terribly amd
> found ctrl and a letter very unintuitive.
>
> ike
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PD.
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Let's see... two min. per pkg. X 1158 pkgs. = whole lotta freezin' and
> thawin'! 22 meg. of pkgs., ave. size of pkg.=19 KB.
> ------------------
> >I mean, how long does it take to show someone all the cool functions on a
> >Newt?! :-)
> >
> >Sushi
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V1 #328
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> 'TAX'? That's a different thread and covered EU stuff.
> I started with a 'hidden charge' added to cost of blank mediums to
> compensate for some of the lost 'revenue' due to illegal copying. This
> 'hidden charge' isn't on paper. It's an 'gentlemen's agreement' that
> increases profits thru many means, the 'proping up' of stocks is one of
the
> many methods.
> Overall sales and profits of the entertainment industry has risen
steadily,
> therefore big companies are still making profits, but the 'little
guy/girl'
> is losing out.
> Well, time for some more french-pressed Kona...mmmm
> <D'oh!> oops, my NEWTON needs some fresh batts...
> ------------------
> >And just how does this have to do with anything?
> >First, what does my stock portfolio have to do with this "TAX"?
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ANN] MAD Newton 0.1 - .
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> You must be MAD!
>
> ..and from madness comes genius!! @:-)
>
> ..grab a six-pack!
> ------------------
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Eckhart Koeppen <eck1000_at_gmx.net>
> >To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> >Date: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:07 AM
> >Subject: [NTLK] [ANN] MAD Newton 0.1 - MP3 decoder unit
>
> >>Eckhart (grabbing a beer now)
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Not really Re: Platform crap...
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Commodore 64K. It was so 'BASIC'. :-p
> ------------------
> >Never knew what got me addicted to the keyboard, my first MS-DOS
experience
> >(without a mouse) or the piano......
> >
> >
> >Robert Benschop
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PD.
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Hey, those are US$800.00 on ebay.
> How's the batt. life? 1300 mAh batts.?
> How's the screen?
> Hey, I need a offline archive of my NEWTON stuff, :-D
> I've got an old Telxon with PenWindows, works well.
> ------------------
> >MS really doesn't seem to be able to work out how to integrate HWR into a
> >device. I have a Pen Windows tablet for evaluation (Fujitsu Stylistic LT,
> >nice well-built piece of kit, excellent 8" screen). If you have your
> >insertion point in a field, then bring up the on-screen keyboard, the
> >insertion point is no longer in the field. And none of this really useful
> >stuff like double-tapping anywhere to bring up a screen keyboard. And Pen
> >Windows has been around in one form or another nearly as long as the
> >Newton...
> >
> >-- B
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Copy This!
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Sounds good to me, a compromise between 'big business' and the consumer.
> ------------------
> >writers, etc. There is no
> >government involved. If the GEMA thinks Sony is cheating on them, they go
> to
> >court. Still no government involved.
> >
> >Jon, you seem to be very concerned that it is a tax, but to my
> understanding,
> >it is a very pragmatic and unbureaucratic procedure. You buy a blank
CD-R,
> >copy the newest Micheal Jackson CD from a friend (that is a private
copy),
> and
> >you pay Michael Jackson via the blank CD-R you bought. Very simple and
> easy
> >and everybody is happy.
> >
> >Andrew
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Apple Newton Repairs still g.
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> OUCH! Sorry to hear this. Hope the third time's the charm. Being
without
> the Newt. one time gave a compulsive need to have more than one backup.
> Did I say more than one???
> ------------------
> >It's now back @ APPLE for round three.
> >SOOOO, when you get your Newton back, check it with a fine tooth comb.
> >Apple has been real nice through all of this but HEY! I want my NEWTON
> >back!!!
> >BTW, this is Apple USA, It was sent to Kentucky (3 times)
> >Good Luck
> >Don
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] More off-topic fun?
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> I think I heard U.B.Laden promise not to hurt anymore un-armed
> Americans/infidels.
>
> ..oh, sorry, I was just dreaming. How many more of our dead till he
> stops? He won't answer.
>
> ..I wonder how many more 'sleepers' he has hidden in our country, 10?
> 100? 1000? How many in Western Europe?
> Anybody remember the movie 'Telephon'? Art imitate life or is that life
> released as art(declassified files)?
> ------------------
> >>Uh, what about the 5000 or so that died in the WTC?
> >
> >Those deads dont justify more deads....
> >
> >Alex
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 03:54 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AW: ser-oo1 vanish - PCB.
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Please extend my greatest thanks for his contributions to the Newton
> Community.
> Please extend my best wishes to his continued success.
> There will always be a special place in Newton history.
>
> Thanks C.G.
> ------------------
> >David already agreed to turn over some of his web-page stuff to me. I'll
> see
> >if he'll let me have the rest of it as a resource to the community.
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech."
> "Don't kill innocent people. We are not the ones who waged war on the
> innocent. We seek the guilty."
>
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:23:01 -0600
> From: good-dog_at_northshore.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PDA anymore?
>
>
>
>
> Marco Mailand wrote:
> >
> > > With the IPAQ ( the newest one ) I am now wondering if the newton is
> > really the best PDA anymore.
> > I've seen an iPaq recently for about 15min in a dark irish pub in CH and
was
> > quite impressed with the HWR in PocketWord (?). Only there, as I
understood,
> > one can use a real intelligent HWR which learns your chicken scratch.
>
> I experimented with a friends Vadem, which has, from all I can tell not
> ever having seen an ipag, the same HWR as the ipaq. I was impressed with
> the fact it translated my writing decently, and that I could actually
> write entire words and sentences, unlike with Graffiti, but was bothered
> by the fact that it didn't appear to have the capacity to save my
> writing in my own hand before translation. If the device didn't
> recognize my scrawl, it translated it into whatever it thought it was
> and there was no way to move on and come back to it later as one can do
> with the newt.
>
> In the newton we can leave our writing 'as is' until we want to
> translate it or not. It seems that with these other pocket pc apps that
> it immediately translates with no backstepping.
>
> Am I wrongt about this? Have things changed since the Vadem?
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:05:02 -0500
> From: Mark Rollins <mark_at_mrollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PDA anymore?
>
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton really the best PDA anymore?
> From: Loren Finkelstein <Loren_at_Finkelstein.Net>
>
> >I got an IPAQ (almost said iPaq in true Apple form) from work. I have
> >played with it a little, but only a little. Sure, it's great that it's
>
> As an anecdote, I'm always amazed how a lot of companies try to
> copy/emulate Apple. One example was with the "Performa" line of
> computers, almost immediately IBM had "Aptiva" (note the "a" at the end)
> and Compaq had "Contura".
> This just brings me to the fact that when the iMac was introduced - well
> before the iPaq - Apple had a free "goodie box" to buyers. The box's
> name - the iPac!!
> --
>
>
> Mark Rollins
> mark_at_mrollins.com
> www.mrollins.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:07:42 -0500
> From: Mark Rollins <mark_at_mrollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] ser-oo1 screws (was PCBMan depart)
>
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] ser-oo1 vanish - PCBMan departure
> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:10:11 GMT
>
> > Does anyone have spare screws, or can possibly
> measure and describe their screws so I know what to get
> so I can install this thing again? I hate my dongle
>
> The best place to find these small screws (and I think Mr. PCBman took
> my advice) would be to go to a hobby shop, especially if they're strong
> in model trains.
> --
>
> Mark Rollins
> mark_at_mrollins.com
> www.mrollins.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [OT] 18TH TOP500 LIST OF WORLD'S FASTEST
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/9/01 11:54 PM, Andre Baron at abaron_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> > Because Apple doesn't make Super, Macro or Mini Computers. Apple makes
> > powerful desktop machines. The have barely delved into the server
market.
> > IMHO Apple wouldn't make a good supercomputer, they don't have the
> > experience or ability. They also don't have most of the hardware
required.
>
> Someone has taken G4 macs, rack mounted them, and run them together to
make
> a super computer. They sell them in groups of something like 12 and 24 or
> custom make them. I saw a pic in MacAddict or something like that.
Besides,
> didn't Steve call the G4 a "super computer for the desktop"? ;-)
>
> (Imagine stacking MP2Ks to make a super computer)<--obligatory Newton
> reference... ;-)
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it
> is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
> --George Washington, first president of the USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [OT] Comments on off topic messages of late
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/10/01 6:42 AM, Lou Forlini at lforlini_at_sspi-software.com wrote:
>
> > b. We have a rather large international contingent on the list,
> > many of whom pay for metered Internet access. It can be distressing
> > to download 100 messages, of which 10 are really on topic, especially
> > if you are on a modem and you know you are paying by the minute.
>
> As one of those who pays by the minute, I'd like to comment on this. :-)
> Even if there were 100 messages on NewtonTalk, I would guess that maybe
five
> or ten of those would, in a normal day, be of interest to me. In spite of
> that, I still subscribe to NewtonTalk, as much as for the community and
the
> overall information and knowledge I gain (trivia I learn??) as for the
> assistance and advice I get (or give--which doesn't amount to a half of a
> hill of beans, I'm sure). I have found that, when I'm not on the list, my
> Newton somehow gets less used and lonely (strictly business). Yet, when
I'm
> on the list, I'm downloading new toys and stuff every week, as well as
> seeing and learning new ways to do things. Oh, and my Newton is happier, I
> am sure. Therefore, I find that the list, and even the hot air (except for
> the insults and degrading comments that always seem to fly towards the end
> of the more divisive issues) is worth the money I spend on the phone
calls.
> :-) Since some of the most helpful and vocal members also live in
countries
> where they probably pay for "on-air" time, I would assume that the same is
> true for them. ????
>
>
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 tent just to hit some
> camel in the butt." --President George W. Bush
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AZ Republic
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/10/01 2:22 AM, James Elliott at rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Didn't the 120 only cost eight hundred-some when it came out? I
wouldn't
> > think that the 130 would have been too much more. And I doubt that it
is a
> > 110.
>
> Well, I'm betting he bought that thing years ago and with the specialized
> software. The fact he is still using it suggests to me that it is not a
110
> or 120, because of memory and heap problems. It is most likely a 130, and
if
> he bought it new and with the software, you can bet that he easily paid
the
> $1500 for it. The fact that he's still using it all these years later
merely
> means to me that he's gotten his money's worth, and it has proved its
worth.
> :-)
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "[T]he law . . . dictated by God Himself is, of course, superior in
> obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all
countries,
> and at all times. No human laws are of any validity if contrary to this."
> --Alexander Hamilton, signer of the Constitution
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Best Software
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/9/01 11:30 PM, Hal Widlansky at hal_at_whoever.com wrote:
>
> > I've been using quicken for years and have no complaints. now that I
have a
> > newton again, I need to try to sync pocket quicken with quicken 2001 for
mac.
> > anyone try this?
>
> I do it on my PB G3, and a Keyspan USB-serial converter with PocketQuicken
> Connect and Quicken 98, and have no problems. Has anybody tried this with
> Quicken 2002 or whatever the latest is?
> --
> Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
>
> Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Country Adapter
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/10/01 3:36 AM, Andy Wells at andywells_at_hotkey.net.au wrote:
>
> > Has anyone got a 'spare' Australian connection plate for the Newt 9W
> > adapter that they'd be willing to part with ?
> > ( Contact me off list )
>
> Believe it or not, I've got one that I will never need. Give me an
address,
> and I'll send it to you. (Maybe in private so as to not waste bandwidth.)
> :-)
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "[T]he law . . . dictated by God Himself is, of course, superior in
> obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all
countries,
> and at all times. No human laws are of any validity if contrary to this."
> --Alexander Hamilton, signer of the Constitution
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:10:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Comments on off topic messages of late
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
> on 11/10/01 6:22 AM, SlashDevNull at SlashDevNull_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> > NOW, why it may seem us off-topicers can discuss anything, we can.
> > HOWEVER, we MUST remember to start an off topic thread with the '[OT]'
or if
> > we change a thread to put an '[OT]' in the subject. This responsibility
is
> > us to us.
>
> I think a little self- control is also in order. In other words, if you go
> off topic, try to not get carried away, and most importantly, don't get
> nasty. There were some exceptionally nasty notes on a recent thread that
> caused, I think, most of us to seriously consider banning OT posting. :-)
> Again, self control is the key, because if it's not exercised, then some
> form of external control will be imposed. That is what self-government is
> about. :-)
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:14:40 -0500
> From: Mark Rollins <mark_at_mrollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newt sports scout prog (was AZ Republic)
>
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AZ Republic
> From: Chris Searles <csearles_at_netcologne.de>
>
> >http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/1109scout1109.html
>
> >"At Mountain Pointe, defensive coordinator Phil Abbadessa inputs an
> >opponent's offensive plays into a $1,500 personal digital assistant
> that
> >spits out the opponent's tendencies. The PDA, with a digital scouting
>
> SOMEWHERE (altho I can find no reference on my HD) I remember seeing
> mention of a sports scouting program for the Newton.
> Probably now lost forever in the mists of time...
> --
>
> Mark Rollins
> mark_at_mrollins.com
> www.mrollins.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:16:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Digest format suggestion
> From: "Joel M. Sciamma" <joelsciamma_at_compuserve.com>
>
>
> Jon,
>
> > Of course, some bloke who gets the digest would go and start quoting
these
> > seperaters, causing even more confusion. :-)
>
> LOL! I didn't think of that!
>
> Joel.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:23:41 -0500
> From: Mark Rollins <mark_at_mrollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newt sports scout prog (was AZ Republic)
>
>
> http://www.digitalscout.com
>
> No mention of Newton stuff, but a past reference pointed here. I've
> asked them the availability as freeware.
> --
> Mark Rollins
> mark_at_mrollins.com
> www.mrollins.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:27:57 +0100
> From: Alexander Schreiber <als_at_thangorodrim.de>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Checking in / iPod Comments...
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:25:29PM +0100, Robert Benschop wrote:
> >
> > on 31-10-2001 9:13, Michael J. Hu=DFmann at michael_at_michael-hussmann.de
wrote=
> > :
> > > A double-blind study conducted by the German computer magazine c't
> > > revealed that only very young people could distinguish high-quality
MP3
> > > tracks from CD tracks, and even they couldn't say which was which. At
my
> > > age (43) it would be unwise to invest in high-end audio equipment.
> >
> > Well at 41 I can still pick out blind an original and an CD-R copy,
haven't
>
> Excuse me - do you mean your _ears_ can pick the difference between the
> original (pressed) CD and the CD-R copy of it? I'd happily trust my
> _eyes_ to do that, but unless the CD-copying equipment went through some
> special signaldestroying hops (like sampling the CD in analog,
> converting it to digital and burning _that_), the CD-R copy of a CD is
> identical to the original - at least with concern to the sound data on
> it. It's just a bit-for-bit identical digital copy of a digital media.
>
> Now, if you meant the difference between a live concert and a CD
> recording of it - no doubt that you can pick the difference. Or even
> between a LP and a CD.
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> --
> q: If you were young again, would you start writing TeX again or would
> you use Microsoft Word, or another word processor?
> a: I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.
> -- Harald Koenig <koenig_at_tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de> asking Donald E.
Knuth
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:43:38 +0100
> From: Alexander Schreiber <als_at_thangorodrim.de>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Checking in / iPod Comments...
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:33:01AM +0100, Marco Mailand wrote:
> >
> > Gerstein, Sam wrote:
> > > Again, if you have poor quality hardware and/or media,
> > > you can increase the error rate, which would cause changes in the
audio
> > > signal, but given the physics of it, I believe it would take a
relatively
> > > extreme case for that to be audible.
> > Exactly, to some point: I borrow from time to time CDs from our library
in
> > our village. It's clear that those CDs aren't treated very carfully and
thus
> > you'll get some really scratched discs which sometimes refuse playing in
the
> > normal CD player. Since I do rip nearly each I've experienced all
versions
> > of crapped up songs. Sometimes audio extraction is not possible and in
worst
> > cases I had to left out the one or other song. But as soon as I got the
data
>
> What hardware/software do you use for ripping the CDs? I strongly
> suggest using a Plextor CD drive (they are very well suited to that
> purpose) and cdparanoia as ripping software. I had very good results
> with this. Once I ripped two CDs from a friend which looked like they had
> been treated with sanding paper - very scratched surface. The CDROM was a
4x
> SONY SCSI (got the Plextor later) and cdparanoia worked almost a full
> day on each CD - but the result was ok, only 2 songs had audible damage
> (one or two audible scratches). My CD player simply refused to play
> those CDs. What cdparanioa does is reading the sectors in raw format and
> then does a lot of re-reading, comparing and checking for potential
> damage. Works pretty fast if the CDs are ok (the Plextor drive happily
> extracts perfect CD-Audio at 4x speed), takes almost forever for very
> badly damaged CDs - but it _still_ gets you a usable result on them.
>
> > ripped off the disc I was usually done. Finally I offered the library
stuff
> > to refurbish their CDs but they didn't yet respond on my offer. They
would
> > have a much easier life if they would give only copies to the public and
> > store the originals in a safe place. However, with vinyl records a
library
>
> Yes, I never understood why libraries weren't already doing that. Not
> everybody borrowing CDs treats the appropriatly, so the library CDs tend
> to suffer an extraordinary amount of damage.
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> --
> q: If you were young again, would you start writing TeX again or would
> you use Microsoft Word, or another word processor?
> a: I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.
> -- Harald Koenig <koenig_at_tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de> asking Donald E.
Knuth
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: ThisOlNewt_at_aol.com
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:47:58 EST
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Best Software
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/9/01 5:12:21 PM, Templarsog1_at_aol.com writes:
>
> << I use a Mac for my home(personal) and home office based business. I was
> wondering what was the best all around software for personal and home
office
> based business use?
>
> MYOB, Quicken? other I haven't heard of? >>
>
> MS office
> Quickbooks
> FM Pro
> Internet explorer and
> faxstf
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:01:32 +0100
> From: Alexander Schreiber <als_at_thangorodrim.de>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] LOTR (Lord of the Rings) in Newton Book format
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 04:51:23AM -0800, j kallo wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I know this is gonna come across as a flame, but
> > understand that I really am not intending it as such.
> > I am completely amazed at the level of acceptance from
> > this list of what is, from what I can tell, disregard
> > of copyright--this being the same list that will, on
> > the slightest hint of someone disregarding SOFTWARE
> > copyright, attack with a vengence.
> >
> > I have several texts on my newton which are
> > copyrighted and which I didn't pay for so I am not
> > displaying moral righteousness, just plain ol'
> > amazement. I mean, doesn't it seem kinda odd that we
> > freak over trying to hunt down someone to pay for
> > software they no longer care about, and yet we have no
> > trouble distributing Tolkien's life's work?
>
> I downloaded LOTR and the Hobbit in Newtonbook format to read them on my
> Newton - but I also have
> - LOTR, german translation as one hardcover book,
> - LOTR, english as paperback,
> - The Hobbit, english as paperback
>
> so I have absolutely no moral problems with this.
>
> Regards,
> Alex.
> --
> q: If you were young again, would you start writing TeX again or would
> you use Microsoft Word, or another word processor?
> a: I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.
> -- Harald Koenig <koenig_at_tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de> asking Donald E.
Knuth
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:13:41 -0600
> From: good-dog_at_northshore.net
> Subject: [NTLK] WriteRights longevity
>
>
> Folks;
>
> Some of you may gasp, others may marvel, others may not care, but I just
> pulled off the WriteRight from my uMP2k. It's been on there since I
> first got it, which was new when the MP2k first came out. I found out
> about screen protectors and within a week or two I had a WriteRight on
> my Newton.
>
> A year or so ago I bought some NuShields since I couldn't find
> WriteRights anywhere and found out they weren't being made anymore. I
> saw some on ebay offered by someone named Wormly Noodwonker and other
> disreputable types, who were charging half the price of a newton for a
> package of these screen protectors. I decided to stick with my small
> allotment and hope for the best since my screen seemed fine.
>
> For all those of you who are concerned about leaving your WriteRights on
> too long, my experience as of this morning is that it came off like a
> charm, leaving only a slight residue along the edges. It was as if I put
> it on last month. I've heard so much talk about changing protectors
> every month, but after this experience I think these are urban legends.
>
> I don't know what you other folks, especially you 'gorillas' ;-) that
> wear through your screen protectors, are doing, but my now limp and
> flaccid WriteRight shows no visible signs of wear. Do you turn on a
> dental drill and use it as a stylus?
>
> Anyone else have any similar or dissimilar experience?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:39:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] LOTR (Lord of the Rings) in Newton Book format
> From: Thomas Cherry <jceaser_at_mac.com>
>
>
> where did you get the hobit? Did I miss something?
> >
> > I downloaded LOTR and the Hobbit in Newtonbook format to read them on my
> > Newton - but I also have
> > - LOTR, german translation as one hardcover book,
> > - LOTR, english as paperback,
> > - The Hobbit, english as paperback
> >
> > so I have absolutely no moral problems with this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alex.
> > --
> > q: If you were young again, would you start writing TeX again or would
> > you use Microsoft Word, or another word processor?
> > a: I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.
> > -- Harald Koenig <koenig_at_tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de> asking Donald
> > E. Knuth
> >
> > --
> > This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> > To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> > mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=unsubscribe
> >
> >
> --
> If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can
> possibly imagine. -Obi-Wan, Jedi Knight
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:42:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AZ Republic
> From: rkadowns_at_mac.com
>
>
> Too bad Steve Jobs didn't see the worth... The death of the Newton is
> still my only gripe with Apple. I still get pissed when I think about
> it.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 10, 2001, at 06:10 AM, Jon Glass wrote:
>
> >
> > on 11/10/01 2:22 AM, James Elliott at rootbeeraddict_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> Didn't the 120 only cost eight hundred-some when it came out? I
> >> wouldn't
> >> think that the 130 would have been too much more. And I doubt that it
> >> is a
> >> 110.
> >
> > Well, I'm betting he bought that thing years ago and with the
> > specialized
> > software. The fact he is still using it suggests to me that it is not a
> > 110
> > or 120, because of memory and heap problems. It is most likely a 130,
> > and if
> > he bought it new and with the software, you can bet that he easily paid
> > the
> > $1500 for it. The fact that he's still using it all these years later
> > merely
> > means to me that he's gotten his money's worth, and it has proved its
> > worth.
> > :-)
> > --
> > -Jon Glass
> > Krakow, Poland
> > <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> > <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> > "[T]he law . . . dictated by God Himself is, of course, superior in
> > obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all
> > countries,
> > and at all times. No human laws are of any validity if contrary to
> > this."
> > --Alexander Hamilton, signer of the Constitution
> >
> >
> > --
> > This is the Newtontalk mailinglist - http://www.newtontalk.net
> > To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> > mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=unsubscribe
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:00:19 -0800 (PST)
> From: Apostolos Koutropoulos <admiralak_at_yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Comparison pages?
>
>
> Hi to all!
> Iam looking for a couple of sites that I used to have
> bookmarks for but I lost.
>
> They were palm vs newton comparisons sites (of course the
> newton always won hehe). I want to show a friend of mine
> those sites btu I cant find them anywhere! The sites also
> had photos of the two devises, screenshots and so on as
> examples, they were not text only reviews.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> AK
>
> =====
> ----DJ AdmiralClub Admiralty 2001http://www.club-admiralty.com
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Find a job, post your resume.
> http://careers.yahoo.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:00:25 -0500
> From: Brian <bmcewen_at_mediaone.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Comments on off topic messages of late [OT]
>
>
> >I think a little self- control is also in order. In other words, if you
go
> >off topic, try to not get carried away, and most importantly, don't get
> >nasty. There were some exceptionally nasty notes on a recent thread that
>
> I would be REALLY happy if people would just add OT to the subject line.
> About one in 100 posts have that, and not 10 in 100 have been truly
> on-topic the last week.
>
> Simplemail and any newsreader can just trash them in times of excessive
OT.
> IF the OT addition is there.
>
> Some of the OT tech info is useful at times, but mixed in with all the
> other stuff....arrgh.
>
>
> B
>
> ..brought to you by the campaign for labelled OT headers....
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Digest format suggestion
> From: firstvln_at_earthlink.net (Way)
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:34:55 -0800
>
>
> For Macs there is an app called Digest Viewer that allows easy
> navigation for digests:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/lfp/digestviewer.html
>
> Way Wong
> Byte-Size Software
> http://home.earthlink.net/~firstvln/bytesize.html
>
> Jon Glass wrote:
> >on 11/9/01 11:44 AM, Joel M. Sciamma at joelsciamma_at_compuserve.com wrote:
> >
> >> How about putting a more distinctive separator between each message
(like
> >> two lines of =) so its clear where one message ends and the next
begins.
> >> With quotes at the end of messages, signatures and the rest it can be
hard
> >> to skip a message. One could also then use a search to find the next
> >> separator and save all that scrolling.
> >
> > Hear, hear! Great idea. I stopped using the digest for this reason
alone.
> >This would be a great help. Of course, some bloke who gets the digest
would
> >go and start quoting these seperaters, causing even more confusion. :-)
> >--
> >Jon Glass
> >Krakow, Poland
> ><jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:48:19 +0100
> From: Till <till_k_at_gmx.net>
> Subject: [NTLK] books, pics and mods for download
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I just made a few Newton books and pictures for Avi=B4s Backdrop and
posted
> them on my site:
> http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/till/newton.htm
>
> Some of the files are not exactly new, but I can safely assume that most
> people are unaware of the existence of my site, so the information is
> fairly new to this audience :)
> Note that the site is in German - sorry, I have been too lazy to make a
> translation (the books are in English, rest assured). However, I am sure
> that you will find your way with these descriptions:
>
>
> - defdict.pkg is Vanilla Ice=B4s Def Dictionary, a text describing his
> special vocabulary. Only for true fans :)
>
> - macbeth.pkg is a Newton book version of the Shakespeare classic.
>
> - tombomadv.pkg: The Adventures of Tom Bombadil by J.R.R. Tolkien.
>
> - m&m.pkg: Made from a Hypercard stack by Jim Brown; Materials & Methods
> 5.0 is a collection of laboratory protocols for those working in the field
> of biochemistry and molecular biology. I made this mostly for my own use,
> but maybe someone else will find this useful, too.
>
> - akira_bike.pkg: From the anime "Akira", depicting Kaneda, his famous
pill
> jacket and his extraordinary motor bike. Ready for use in Avi=B4s
Backdrop.
>
> - yamagata.pkg: Also from "Akira"; Kaneda holding his dying friend
Yamagata
> in his arms. Also for Avi=B4s Backdrop.
>
> - dns.pkg: Ball model of a short stretch of DNA. A Definitely Geeky (tm)
> background picture.
>
> All the other files are for use with Roger Milne=B4s excellent MOD Player
> package.
>
>
> Have fun :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:26:04 -0500
> From: Roman Tarnovetsky <romantic_at_arvotek.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] D-Link 660 Mac driver
>
>
> Greetings Newtontalkers,
> I've been using the d-link 660 flawlessly with the Atlan driver to
> connect my 2xxx Newtons to my desktop. I would like to extend the
> card's usability to my PowerBook 5300 and was wondering if any members
> have had success with the above card in the 5300PB. If so, can someone
> please send me a Mac driver for it or direct me to a download. P.S. I
> hope that I'm not crossing the OT perimeter very much with this
> question. Thanks for any and all info. Roman
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:14:01 -0600
> From: "C.W. Otto Sohn" <oky_at_avalon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] OT: Kafka "Penal colony" - copyright and translations
>
>
> >Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:23:00 -0500
> >Subject: [NTLK] OT: Kafka "Penal colony" - copyright and translations
> >From: Jim Witte <jswitte_at_bloomington.in.us>
> >
> >
> >> 2) wish there were translations of Kafka that are in the public domain
> >> (there aren't).
> >>
> > Are there any lawyers here who know how copyright/public domain status
> >interacts with translations? I would assume that while the original
> >worl (in German) is PD, the translations aren't, but what exactly
> >constitues "changeing it enough to warrent copyright?" A somewhat
> >similar issue came up recently on the OpenOffice list, with regards to
> >free/non-free status and word lists to use for a spell checker.
> >
> > Any German/English speakers out there who would be willing to
> >translate Kafka and put it under OPL (Open Publishing License) - or
> >something similar, if RMS has his fingers that pie as well, it probably
> >comes with unwelcome strings...
> >
> >Jim
>
>
> Jim,
>
> you're right: it depends on the translator. Easy case are those
> translations that already have "expired" copyright. A non-exhaustive list
> of free translations can be found on Project Gutenberg
> <http://www.gutenberg.net/>. Of course, they are only sorted by autor or
> title, but there's for example quite a bit available, including Goethe in
> English, or Gogol, or Voltaire, and many international authors of world
> fame. Unfortunately nothing under "Kafka"; there just hasn't been anybody
> who has taken the time to start a translation of his works from scratch.
> Too bad. I really have neither the time nor inclination to try a new
> translation of Kafka. Maybe a native English speaker with excellent
> knowledge of German would be the way to go. Check the German Dept. of your
> local university if someone's willing to do it...
>
> But really: if you just want some text to read on you Newton, got to
> Project Gutenberg, download the plain text file, and drop it on PaperBack
> v.2.0 (which even allows you to create chapter headings); not the most
> appealing layout, I admit, because you can't specify new pages, or center
> text, or have different font sizes or styles, but you can change the font
> of the entire document, though.
>
> And for those who DO read German: Get your texts from Gutenberg DE
> <http://gutenberg.aol.de/>. This is all free and in public domain
(although
> you need the extra step of converting the html pages to plain text
> first...).
>
> I myself, I'll probably create my next NewtonBooks only when I've figured
> out how Bookmaker works for full-display NewtonBooks. I'm getting sick of
> the crutches of creating books in different formats for different screen
> sizes with NewtonPress. The other problem I just have to live with are
> those mile-long German words that just don't "auto-hyphenate" at the end
of
> lines and thus leave these unsightly gaps in the middle of a paragraph
> (Donaudampfschiffahrtskapit=E4nswitwenbeerdigungsg=E4ste) <- not that
Kafka
> would have written about those, but he uses quite a few compound words
> nevertheless.
>
> Otto
>
>
> *****
> Otto Sohn <http://newted.dyndns.org/users/osohn/>
> NewTIL <http://newted.dyndns.org/users/osohn/NewTIL/>
> NEWTtools <http://newted.dyndns.org/users/osohn/NEWTtools/>
> *****
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:33:47 -0800
> From: "James N. Johnston" <jimthej_at_mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] WriteRights longevity
>
>
> on 11/10/01 6:13 AM, good-dog_at_northshore.net at good-dog_at_northshore.net
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Anyone else have any similar or dissimilar experience?
> I used to leave mine on for 2-4 months at a time until they became cloudy
or
> snagged.
>
> Jim Johnston
> Teacher
> Mac Smacker
> Newton User
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Project Newtonberg?
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:35:43 -0700
> From: "Grant [Tonic Bottle] Hutchinson" <grant_at_splorp.com>
>
>
> In a previous message, Victor Rehorst typed vigorously:
>
> >Usually I'm not this ignorant but... Project Newtonberg was a book
> >repository, right? I might have a copy of that in my CDs somewhere....
> >I'll have to look later.
>
> Basically. Rob West was taking the public domain e-texts available
> through Project Gutenberg and converting them to Newton Book format. I
> can't recall how many of the texts he had converted, but it was fairly
> substantial. There are over 4,400 titles in the Project Gutenberg
> repository as of the beginning of this month. A full list can be
> downloaded in a zip archive from the project's home page.
>
> http://gutenberg.net/
>
> I would be more than happy to donate time and server space to start this
> conversion project up again, should we find that Rob and his Project
> Newtonberg data have disappeared completely. People are always looking
> for sources of Newton Books. Well, this is a heck of place to begin...
>
> g.
>
> ......................................................................
>
> Grant Hutchinson Interface Considerations & Toys
>
> Now fortified with daily ramblings. http://www.splorp.com/blog/
> Newton. It's the Palm with a brain. http://www.splorp.com/newton/
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:53 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] the way this list is going...
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> Maybe my next Newt. should be French-based??? :-o
> ------------------
> >Actually !ooW, it's "n'est-ce pas". Notice the "ce"? You did the same
> >mistake the first time ;-)
> >
> >But you're forgiven...
> >
> >-Laurent.
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech." "
> Understand the causes of terror. Yes, we should try, but let there be no
> moral ambiguity about this: nothing could ever
> justify the events of 11 September, and it is to turn justice on its head
> to pretend it could."
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:53 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Diversity -- Was: the way this.
> From: Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net>
>
>
> My dad would shake 'your' hand for this post.
>
> He survived The Korean War, he had too, otherwise I and my family wouldn't
> be here(who else would max out his/her Newt.?)
>
> He 'never' talks about it(the War), but I don't blame him and he never
> wishes he was involved, it was 'his' country. I guess I'll never know how
> happy and grateful he and his group were when the first group of American
> soldiers arrived to defend a foreign country that also wanted a democracy.
> Men side-by-side for one common goal, freedom. Fight for your freedom or
> die with your rights.
> He also met other people from the UN's charter to support his country. So
> much evil, but there's way more good in this world. South Korea could buy
> North Korea today. That would improve the quality of life there and ease
> fears in Japan. There's still hope!
> ------------------
> >Anyhow, as a reminder, this weekend we celebrate Veterans Day.
> >
> >Veterans have sacrificed their lifestyle, and many have given their lives
> >so that we are free to pursue our lives as we see fit. So on the 11th,
> >hug and thank a veteran that you know.
> >
> >I for one, know that they will appreciate the gesture. It helps to know
> >that spending months on end in a tiny little tent, if you're lucky, in a
> >far way place, under very unpleasant circumstances, was all worth it.
> >Those simple words, "Thank You," can mean so much.
> >
> >For those of your outside of the US, please do the same on the
> >appropriate day for your country. We are so lucky to live in a free
> >world! :-)
> >
> >Sushi
> ------------------
>
> ---------------------
>
> !ooW %-) "Tony Blair's speech." "
> Understand the causes of terror. Yes, we should try, but let there be no
> moral ambiguity about this: nothing could ever
> justify the events of 11 September, and it is to turn justice on its head
> to pretend it could."
> Pres. of Los Angeles Newton Users Group!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:21:23 -0500 (EST)
> From: Victor Rehorst <victor_at_newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AW: Leverage 3.1 Software
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, C.W. Otto Sohn wrote:
>
> > For more mundane organizational tasks you also have Notion.
> >
> > Any other apps that I forgot (except the also discontinued Accordian
that
> > only enables linking with FileMaker v.3.0, and even that not so well)?
>
> They're all at UNNA:
>
> http://www.unna.org/unna/applications/database/
>
> I see:
> -Bee-One
> -CD (just a silly CD organizing database)
> -EBase
> -FileMaker pro Companion
> -FilePad
> -HomeInventory
> -Leverage
> -MORGAN
> -NewtDb
> -Notion
>
> --
> Victor Rehorst - victor_at_newtontalk.net - chuma_at_chuma.org
> NewtonTalk list administrator - http://www.newtontalk.net
> Will help you with your list problems - as long as you're nice.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:23:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Comments on off topic messages of late
> From: SlashDevNull <SlashDevNull_at_mac.com>
>
>
> Salutations,
>
> And behalf of us off-topicers I would like to thank you for your
wonderful
> suggestions, constructive criticism, and the insightful way that you were
> able to add to a solution.
>
> David
>
>
> >
> >> And behalf of the off-topicers, if I may, I offer this truce. If we
let
> >> an off topic message slip by us without marking it, we will apologize
and
> >> not let loose with the rant of 'hey, I'll talk about anything I damn
well
> >> feel like'. And we'll promise to do better.
> >>
> >> Does this sound fair to everyone?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe or manage: visit the above link or
> > mailto:newtontalk-request_at_newtontalk.net?Subject=unsubscribe
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:35:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: Victor Rehorst <victor_at_newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] D-Link 660 Mac driver
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Roman Tarnovetsky wrote:
>
> > I've been using the d-link 660 flawlessly with the Atlan driver to
> > connect my 2xxx Newtons to my desktop. I would like to extend the
> > card's usability to my PowerBook 5300 and was wondering if any members
> > have had success with the above card in the 5300PB. If so, can someone
>
> Hey Roman. Not being a Mac user, I can't suggest a specific driver for
> you, but I can tell you that the DE-660 is an NE2000 compatable card - so
> if you find a generic NE2000 PCMCIA driver for MacOS, it should work like
> a charm. Good Luck.
>
> --
> Victor Rehorst - victor_at_newtontalk.net - chuma_at_chuma.org
> NewtonTalk list administrator - http://www.newtontalk.net
> Will help you with your list problems - as long as you're nice.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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