> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 03:20:22 +0900
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [OT] The Myth of Japanese phones
> From: BK <bk_newtontalk_at_yahoo.com>
>
> WAP = Wait And Pay ;-)
Make that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiit and paaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy ;)
>> The Japanese show us. You have UMTS in Japan *now*,
>
> Correct
>
>> not "maybe second
>> quarter 2003", with great services, using color cellphones one cannot
>> dream
>> of here, and people buy and consume those things at addiction-level.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> We've got UMTS here, yes, well kind of ... but DoCoMo has only attracted
> some 4000 users most of them are the folks that have been on the trial
> since May.
>
> FOMA (as the 3G service is called here) isn't all that popular. People
> do not consume it "at addiction-level" because nobody can see the point
> of it.
**
> Coverage is only in Tokyo, the handsets are in the order of a thousand
> dollars, and there isn't really much you could do with FOMA that you
> couldn't do with the other cellphone services. PHS for example has got
> 64kbps and 128kbps is about to be launched or has been launched, so why
> 3G ?
>
> Sure, there are some FOMA phones that have a camera built-in and you can
> do video telephony, but most people who have used it say that it is cool
> for a giggle once or twice but after that seems pretty useless.
My point about this was: You can have it all, it is there. No matter how
stupid or useless, you can have it if you want it. Something that seems
pointless to me may be a fascinating way of selfexpression to somebody else.
3G may be over the top if you have 128kbps already, but that's something to
dream of here.
Here, we can have a lot of studpid and useless things as well, but at a much
lower level of technology. So it's not only stupid and useless, but also
slow and boring.
>> You couldn't even sell a phone without colour, as I have read, because
>> people would just laugh at you.
>
> Depends on what you mean by "without colour".
*snip* realities
> So, if you hear those wonderful tales about the Japanese consumer
> paradise, may I suggest you ask someone who has been living in Japan to
> give you some background on it because as they say: Not all that shines
> is gold.
BK, I have to excuse myself, as I here (and ** also) fell for a stereotype
about Japan created by European media while feeling very sure about knowing
that other stereotypes about Japan are just not true, can't be true in the
order of "all the Japanese...", as nothing can, most times.
>> I guess this behaviour and its results are a matter of attitude, but I
>> do
>> not know for sure of whom.
> I tell you one thing. I prefer my GSM Nokia 8110 over any Japanese phone
> anytime and so does my Japanese wife who has her own 8110 for when we
> are travelling abroad ...
Good choice ;) I have used that phone for two years, excellent device,
tough, took a lot, never failed, and a design-classic as well. I loved it.
It's a phone, and it doesn't claim to be anything else. SMS & data with the
8110i, that's it. Does its job very well.
Most of what you get today, with flimsy PIM functions, WAP, etc. does not.
> because Japan is the only industrialised country in the world which does
> not have adopted ...
*snip* some things I did not know.
>...a new phone meant a new phone number unless
> one wanted to send in the old phone and wait a week (being without a
> phone).
>
> Speaking of arrogant Westerners ... you ain't seen nothing yet.
>
> In their hearts and minds they feel good to be different and
> special most of the time.
So, you're saing that being different and special is a bad thing, arrogant?
Or do you mean that being different and special in an arrogant way is a bad
thing? ... Let me get this straight ;)
I myself dare to be different, because I am.
I feel great about it.
Being different does not make me a better person, though.
Neither does it degrade others, who may be just as special, or like to be
absorbed by the mass.
Thank you for some insights!
Oliver :)
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