SO, what im reading is that apple is a business just like any other company
and they are going after the almighty dollar and not "the experience" that
apple and so many of you have spoke so highly about. so does this mean that
i will start seeing the apple logo in a death star motiff?
now before you start the windows bashing again, just think, this might just
be the first step in many for apple. so becareful where u start throwing
those stones.
i usually stay out of these convos but i am finding this convo between the
mac addicts very amusing. did i say very amusing yet? 8-)
LAG
>From: Stephen Jendraszak <stevehj_at_mac.com>
>Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
>To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Geez people, freaking get over it
>Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:20:14 -0500
>
>
>
>On Friday, July 19, 2002, at 02:13 AM, SlashDevNull wrote:
> > .Mac is still a part of OS 9 and X. .Mac is better integrated than _any
> > other_ Internet suite and OS out there. That integration and service
> > _does_
> > cost money.
>Yes, it does. And we paid that money when we bought OS 9 and/or OS X.
>Apple is not in the right to suddenly deactivate a feature of an OS it
>is still selling!
>
> > Ok Mr. Finance. How would you do it?
>I dunno... in a way that is ethical? Apple has managed to make money
>before without stooping to MS-esque tactics.
>
> > Exactly. You paid for the development of iTools and the initial run.
> > Which
> > has been several years. Itools is not .Mac. It is hugely successful.
> > It
> > is used by 2.2 million people. Apple simply can not afford to keep
> > paying
> > for over 2 million people internet services.
>Apple has no right to deactivate services that I ALREADY PAID THEM FOR,
>that are part of two operating systems I still use. Make a new service
>called .Mac? Fine. But leave iTools alone.
>
> > So I spent $49. And in a year, another $100. Think about what Apple
> > needs
> > to do. Server farms. People to support those farms. Cooling, wiring,
> > buildings. People to support all of 3 of those. Software developers
> > and
> > people to support them. And a _ton_ of bandwidth. UPS'es, rows of
> > batteries and backup systems. Hundreds of terabytes of data storage.
> >
> > Who do you think paid for the bandwidth for the latest MacWorld
> > broadcast?
> >
> > Don't forget the people who will still use .Mac for free. You know, the
> > people who will create email address for a short amount of time.
> > People who
> > create .Mac idisks to transfer software to others. Apple is still
> > supporting these people also. And their bandwidth. And Apple is not
> > making
> > a dime off of the trial users.
> >
> > The bottom line is that it is very expensive. I think it is naive for
> > you
> > to think that Apple is making more than a tiny amount of profit from
> > each
> > account of .Mac.
>Yes, iTools was an expense. Just like it is expensive to hire
>programmers to write the OS, etc. But people who buy a copy of the OS
>are PAYING for your expenses. And it is extremely shady to take a
>feature of the OS they bought, turn it off, and say they can have it
>back for $50.
>
> > If you don't want to pay the cash, then don't use it.
> >
> > You can find cheaper email and web services. Just remember that you get
> > what you pay for.
>It isn't the fact that it costs money that annoys me. What gets me is
>the sheer sleaziness of this maneuver. If .Mac was a new service
>announced today, it would be totally okay to charge for it. But it
>really isn't a new service... it it iTools plus a couple things
>
>sj
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/stevehj
>
>
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