Re: [NTLK] newtontalk Digest V2 #198

From: David Khan (genghis_at_mac.com)
Date: Fri Mar 08 2002 - 09:34:28 EST


Hey I am looking for a replacement door for my 2K. My office partner
knocked my Newt out of my hands and even though it was in a case, the door
hinge broke. Anyone have a good pointer on where I can get a replacement?
Thanks.

Genghis
----- Original Message -----
From: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
To: "newtontalk digest users" <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: newtontalk Digest V2 #198

> newtontalk Digest Fri, 08 Mar 2002 Volume: 02 Issue: 198
>
> In This Issue:
> Re: [NTLK] webmail and Newtscape
> [NTLK] [ANN] Updated List FAQ
> [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> Re: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> Re: [NTLK] THE Definitive Answer on Wireless LAN
> Re: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> Re: [NTLK] AW: Cable for Farallon Ethernet card (2nd attempt
> [NTLK] Waba Tester !
> Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> [NTLK] OT: Building root directory help
> Re: [NTLK] Motorola Marco Lives!!!
> Re: [NTLK] Motorola Marco Lives!!!
> [NTLK] Miracles (was: blank screen problems)
> [NTLK] yet another t-shirt idea
> [NTLK] Are all Newt cases the same color and feel.
> [NTLK] Idea for Newt Sync development
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 22:16:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Motorola TimePort P280
> From: Eric Schneck <eschneck_at_mindspring.com>
>
>
> To connect a P280 to the Newton:
>
> 1. Connect the Newt and P280 using each computer's cable plus a gender
> changer and null modem.
>
> 2. Set up a Serial (not modem) connection in NIE.
> Leave the user name and password blank (NIE will complain. Its OK).
> Fill in your DNS. Enter a null connect script.
>
> 3. Use PT100 to dial your ISP (I use Mindspring).
> All you need to enter is ATDTyourphonenumberhere
> Once you get the login prompt, enter your userid and password,
> then exit PT100. (PT100 will complain that you are connected. Its OK)
>
> 3. Open SimpleMail or whatever, and hit connect.
>
> Away you go.
>
> Connection is analog (9600) and makes me really miss my Ricochet.
>
> AFAIK, this is the only Newt-compatible VoiceStream phone.
> Incidentally, the IR on this phone works fine with my Mac.
> Mac drivers are at: http://homepage.mac.com/robm/Motorola_P280.sit
>
> Eric
>
>
> > From: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:48:07 +0100 (CET)
> > To: newtontalk digest users <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
> > Subject: newtontalk Digest V2 #197
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:16:39 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [NTLK] Motorola TimePort P280
> > From: Rich Lindsay <rich_at_www.thisoldnewt.com>
> >
> >
> > How did you do this?
> > I have that phone!
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 03:20 PM, <eschneck_at_mindspring.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> I got the Motorola TimePort P280 working (in analog mode) with my 2100.
> >> I need to do a manual dial-up because otherwise it hangs at the login
> >> prompt. Perhaps someone has a suggestion to get it to work better.
> >>
> >> Steve/Peter/Sean/Paul: Can we add the P280 to the modem compatibility
> >> list in the FAQ?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 22:32:27 -0500
> From: Brian <bmcewen_at_comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] webmail and Newtscape
>
>
>
> >IIRC). "left frame" has the popups and links for writing a new mail,
> >checking other POP3 servers, editing your user settings, that kind of
> >stuff, "content" frame gives you your inbox or other mail folders.
>
> This is actually a little incorrect in one respect: to get the very
useful
> "check other email" to work, you have to have manually loaded that link by
> one of several clunky means (like, on a desktop client, do a "open window
> with this frame" then emailed that URL to yourself, or something similar
> (you can bookmark it once you are "there" in Newtscape the first time).
>
> In Newtscape you can load the left frame and click on the popup and "check
> retrieve mail" and hit the link- but the action gets redirected to a frame
> which you aren't viewing, which does you no good :)
>
> I'm not sure anyone really cares but since I said it worked.... best to
> point it out else someone will try it and jump all over me, for sure :).
>
> POP3 is still way cool for this. Although the Yahoo pop3 server sometimes
> is verrrry slow to respond.
>
> Anyway, if you want webmail badly enough, it is still possible :)
>
> Brian
>
> --
> NOTE: NEW EMAIL ADDRESS SOON: bmcewen_at_comcast.net
> The reply-to: field for this email reflects this change.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:34:12 -0500 (EST)
> From: Victor Rehorst <victor_at_newtontalk.net>
> Subject: [NTLK] [ANN] Updated List FAQ
>
>
>
> Hey all. I've found some time and updated the list FAQ with a list
> etiquette section. I highly suggest everyone reads it. Comments on it to
> me personally, please. The link is appended in the message footer - that
> means scroll down and you'll find it!
>
> --
> Victor Rehorst - victor_at_newtontalk.net - chuma_at_chuma.org
> NewtonTalk list administrator - http://www.newtontalk.net
> Will help you with your list problems - as long as you're nice.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:49:41 -0800
> From: "Robert Hoehn" <rob_at_hoehn.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
>
>
> I have a PC on my home network that I was thinking could do my wireless
> routing for my newton. If I get another PCMCIA Silver Card, wouldn't I
> need a PCI card that would hold the PCMCIA card? Will any PCI holder
> work? I heard that there are some people that have used Windoze laptops
> in Ad-Hoc mode for 802.11 connections, has anyone used these cards in a
> desktop machine? Thanks.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 23:04:25 -0500
> From: SlashDevNull <slashdevnull_at_mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
>
>
> Salutations,
>
> Why do we have to have one shirt?
>
> Why must it be one order only?
>
> Why does it have to be a T or polo?
>
> Why can't we simply pick 6 or so shirts and go from there?
>
> I see many web sites offering shirts as a way to help boost income.
>
> So why don't we figure out the top 8 or so shirts, post pictures and then
> saddle Victor with arranging ordering and shipping them.
>
> After all he is the one who will be profiting from this. And I don't
mean
> that in a bad way. :)
>
> And as new members join, we can point them to the website so they can
help
> support the list. And if current members want a new shirt they know where
> to go.
>
> I am sure everyone subscribing understands that the shirts will probably
> be cheaper the first time with the bulk order and them as they are sold
one
> at a time, they will probably be a little more expensive.
>
> This, of course, is assuming Victor wants the extra work and the extra
> income. :)
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "John Ruschmeyer" <jruschme_at_mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:18:13 -0500
>
>
> That's actually what I do here... P100 running NetBSD acting as firewall
and
> NAT for two subnets, one wired and one wireless.
>
> The on difference is that I'm using an ISA PCMCIA holder (a discard from
> work).
>
> <<<john>>>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
> > [mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of Robert Hoehn
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:50 PM
> > To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > Subject: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a PC on my home network that I was thinking could do my wireless
> > routing for my newton. If I get another PCMCIA Silver Card, wouldn't I
> > need a PCI card that would hold the PCMCIA card? Will any PCI holder
> > work? I heard that there are some people that have used Windoze laptops
> > in Ad-Hoc mode for 802.11 connections, has anyone used these cards in a
> > desktop machine? Thanks.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > --
> > Read the List FAQ/Etiquette: http://www.newtontalk.net/faq.html
> > Read the Newton FAQ: http://www.guns-media.com/mirrors/newton/faq/
> > This is the NewtonTalk mailing list - http://www.newtontalk.net
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:28:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Patrick Jendraszak <indyibook_at_insightbb.com>
>
> I like the idea of a polo shirt. Either the (photo quality) Newton you
> mention, or the light bulb - like logo.
>
> I also like the "Think Newton". Is Garamond the typeface used on the
> current Apple website and the "Think Different" ads? If we are doing a
> "Think Newton" type, then a typeface like the one used in that ad
> campaign would be appropriate.
>
> I like the polo shirt because it is a bit classier and different than
> the usual computer t-shirt ... like the Newton! But I would get whatever
> we put together.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Darrow's Comment on History:
> History repeats itself. That's the one thing wrong with history.
>
> A message from Patrick Jendraszak
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 09:28 PM, Josh Shanks wrote:
>
> > Hey why don't we use Apple Garmond. It is the font apple uses on
> > everything.
> > I have the font at the silk screen shop already. And I can do the
> > emroidery
> > or printing but I would love to see a nice photo quality newton on the
> > front
> > of the shirt and under neath it in apple garmond have it say "Think
> > Newton"
> > I can print any colors up to 6 on any shirt except polos for 10 a shirt.
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:45:19 -0800
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: newton2k <newton2k_at_mac.com>
>
>
> heheh.. how about we get a black mock-turtle (a la steve-jobs wardrobe)
> with the newton logo and the caption 'i made a mistake...'
>
> hehehhe.... sorry.. i couldnt resist :)
>
> cheers,
> nitin
>
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 08:28 PM, Patrick Jendraszak wrote:
>
> > I like the idea of a polo shirt. Either the (photo quality) Newton you
> > mention, or the light bulb - like logo.
> >
> > I also like the "Think Newton". Is Garamond the typeface used on the
> > current Apple website and the "Think Different" ads? If we are doing a
> > "Think Newton" type, then a typeface like the one used in that ad
> > campaign would be appropriate.
> >
> > I like the polo shirt because it is a bit classier and different than
> > the usual computer t-shirt ... like the Newton! But I would get whatever
> > we put together.
> >
> > Patrick
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 23:52:06 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Andreas Lindkvist
> From: Laurent Daudelin <nemesys_at_cox.rr.com>
>
>
> on 07/03/02 21:05, Miquel A. Pujadas at mapujadas_at_eresmas.net wrote:
>
> > I subscribe to this point
> >
> > Miquel
>
> Miquel,
>
> No need to repeat the same thing 4 times!
>
> -Laurent.
> --
> =====================================================================
> Laurent Daudelin <http://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys>
> Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:nemesys_at_cox.rr.com
>
> cargo cult programming n.: A style of (incompetent) programming dominated
by
> ritual inclusion of code or program structures that serve no real purpose.
A
> cargo cult programmer will usually explain the extra code as a way of
> working around some bug encountered in the past, but usually neither the
bug
> nor the reason the code apparently avoided the bug was ever fully
understood
> (compare shotgun debugging, voodoo programming).
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 23:56:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] THE Definitive Answer on Wireless LAN
> From: Laurent Daudelin <nemesys_at_cox.rr.com>
>
>
> on 07/03/02 19:12, Alexander Oberd=F6rster at oberdoer_at_uni-duesseldorf.de
> wrote:
>
> >> Hiroshi says that he has a driver version that works in "enterprise"
> >> mode (meaning to connect to a WAP), but he hasn't writen the user
> >> interface for it yet. So this means, the solution to our problems is
> >> out there, we just have to wait.
> >=20
> > If it's just the user interface that has to be finished, maybe someone
> > could assist him? I would guess that this part should be a lot easier
> > than the driver itself.
>
> Not at all! From explanations from Paul Guyot, the interface that is
writte=
> n
> in NewtonScript resides in one memory area while the driver which is
writte=
> n
> in C++ resides in the C++ areas, and from what I understood, it's somehow
> tricky to try to establish communication between the 2 areas. It's doable,
> but I don't think it's that easy...
>
> -Laurent.
> --=20
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Laurent Daudelin <http://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys>
> Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:nemesys_at_cox.rr.com
>
> dangling pointer n.: [common] A reference that doesn't actually lead
> anywhere (in C and some other languages, a pointer that doesn't actually
> point at anything valid). Usually this happens because it formerly pointed
> to something that has moved or disappeared. Used as jargon in a
> generalization of its techspeak meaning; for example, a local phone number

> for a person who has since moved to the other coast is a dangling pointer.
> Compare dead link.=20
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 23:58:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Wireless LAN FAQ
> From: Laurent Daudelin <nemesys_at_cox.rr.com>
>
>
> on 07/03/02 19:32, Alexander Oberd=F6rster at oberdoer_at_uni-duesseldorf.de
> wrote:
>
> >> I think the document needs to clarify the issue of operating modes.
> >> There are basically three modes that a WaveLAN card can operate in:
> >> 1) BSS/Infrastructure/Access Point mode. This is the mode where
> >> 2) Ad-Hoc Demo Mode (AHDM).
> >> 3) Independent Basic Service Set (IBSS).
> >=20
> > Ah. Thanks for pointing that out. I read about that IBSS vs. AHDM a few
> > months ago, but I didn't know that Apple uses different modes in
> > different versions of the driver. I'll add this info.
> >=20
> > But wait -- I could just set up a Wiki, so we can all work on the FAQ
> > together. What do you think?
> >=20
> >=20
> >> Laurent, forgive me if I missed a previous response to the question,
> >> but how hard would it be to hack Hiroshi's driver to set the PortType
> >> to 1, instead of 3? That should put the card into a state where it
> >> could connect to an IBSS or *possibly* an Access Point.
> >=20
> > This touches another question which is not answered yet (imho). Is the
> > source available? Where can it be found? Laurent said that it's on
> > Hiroshi's site, but I can't find it.
>
> It's not there anymore :-(
>
> -Laurent.
> --=20
>
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3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
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> Laurent Daudelin <http://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys>
> Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:nemesys_at_cox.rr.com
>
> fear and loathing n.: [from Hunter S. Thompson] A state inspired by the
> prospect of dealing with certain real-world systems and standards that are
> totally brain-damaged but ubiquitous -- Intel 8086s, or COBOL, or EBCDIC,
o=
> r
> any IBM machine bigger than a workstation. "Ack! They want PCs to be able
t=
> o
> talk to the AI machine. Fear and loathing time!"=20
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:52:45 -0500
> From: Alex <admeddemda_at_f-m.fm>
> Subject: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
>
>
> I'm having what I consider to be weird battery issues. Although, I am
> used to using a 130, and so maybe these issues are normal in a 2100.
>
> The unit is off. I take out the battery and replace it with a fully
> charged battery (both apple nimh packs). I turn unit on. It restarts,
> meaning reactivates all packages and wipes its immediate memory (some
> prefs are gone)
>
> Is that normal? Why cant I swap batteries when the unit is off w/o
> forcing this restart cycle?
> No backup batt, ok, but isnt there some thing in there?
>
> but weirder :
>
> One time, when I swapped the batteries while the unit was off, and
> then pulled the start button, the unit flashed the message "do you
> want to erase everything?" (kinda funny, I thought, like when you do
> something stupid and a friend asks in that incredulous voice tone "do
> you want to ruin everything?" about whatever it is youre doing..
> lol... I thought of the newt message in that way... like you stupid
> fool! watch what youre doing! ) Anyway, that message came up with no
> chime, no nothing else, just that message with a yes or no box. I
> picked no. Then the unit restarted and reactivated. What's with
> that???
>
> are these dumb questions? hope not.
>
> thanks
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 22:07:25 +0000
> Subject: [NTLK] Newton Works footnotes
> From: Mike Weisman <popeye_at_speakeasy.org>
>
>
> Has anyone seen a path that allows one to do footnotes in Works?
>
> Or alternative, anyone seen an app that MS Word and have them keep most of
> their formatting. I only know how to export documents as Newton works docs
> or RTF doc.
>
> Mike Weisman
> Seattle
>
> --
> Please respond to:
> Mike Weisman
> popeye_at_speakeasy.org
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:37:38 -0800
> Subject: [NTLK] Hex/Dec/Bin converter
> From: Steven Frank <stevenf_at_panic.com>
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> Is there a Newton application (or perhaps a "plug-in" for Formulas?)
> that does hexadecimal / decimal / binary / ASCII conversions? It'd be
> real handy to have around while programming..
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 07:53:04 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 06-03-2002 4:10, Darl Singh at darl_at_xpress.net.nz wrote:
>
> > Actually, I thought the whole _purpose_ of the shirts was to 'show off'
> > Newtontalk - with the Newt also, of course.
> > I'd like to see a pic/logo with just "www.newtontalk.net" as the
> > inscription......
>
> This is why I wondered if we could have something around the collar.
>
> We could run the www.newtontalk.net all around, effective and classy and
you
> could still have a tasteful logo on the chest.
>
> However, I would always go for two versions, one tasteful and one really
> loud. (I like both ;-)
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:08:33 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 5:04, SlashDevNull at slashdevnull_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> > Why do we have to have one shirt?
> >
> > Why must it be one order only?
> >
> > Why does it have to be a T or polo?
> >
> > Why can't we simply pick 6 or so shirts and go from there?
>
> Which makes me go back to an idea floated before, why don't we just post a
> couple designs on the web and people make their own, especially handy for
> people not in the US. (avoids all the shipping)
>
> Victor could still make them central for North America, proceeds to
> NewtonTalk.
>
> Just wondering in what form this would be best on the web, guess
Illustrator
> files would be good technically, but not everybody can read them...
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Johannes Wolf" <jwolf_at_xe.estec.esa.nl>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:22:01 +0100
>
>
> 1st these are not dumb questions.
> 2nd I really fear that there is something wrong with your Newt.
> Normally you should be able to change the batttery without losing any
> preferences,
> but the Newt 2x00 will do a restart, i.e. reloading all packages.
> The Newt 2x00 does not have a battery to keep the contents of its RAM
> memory, there is only a so called supercapacitor in order to keep the RTC
> alive. I am not sure if the backup battery of the MP120 (I had one) was
> capable of keeping the RAM contents as well.
> All serious info is normally stored in flash ROM, so you should not lose
> data.
> But as it comes to the point that you get the slip asking if you really
want
> to erase the whole memory, something is wrong.
> Normally you reach this status, which is called deep reset or brain wash,
> only in case you press the reset key at the same time you hold the power
> switch down.
> So this might indicate that your reset switch is not ok.
> But you can try to operate it a few times in order to bring it to a
defined
> position.
>
> Johannes
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
> > [mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of Alex
> > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:53 AM
> > To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> > Subject: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm having what I consider to be weird battery issues. Although, I am
> > used to using a 130, and so maybe these issues are normal in a 2100.
> >
> > The unit is off. I take out the battery and replace it with a fully
> > charged battery (both apple nimh packs). I turn unit on. It restarts,
> > meaning reactivates all packages and wipes its immediate memory (some
> > prefs are gone)
> >
> > Is that normal? Why cant I swap batteries when the unit is off w/o
> > forcing this restart cycle?
> > No backup batt, ok, but isnt there some thing in there?
> >
> > but weirder :
> >
> > One time, when I swapped the batteries while the unit was off, and
> > then pulled the start button, the unit flashed the message "do you
> > want to erase everything?" (kinda funny, I thought, like when you do
> > something stupid and a friend asks in that incredulous voice tone "do
> > you want to ruin everything?" about whatever it is youre doing..
> > lol... I thought of the newt message in that way... like you stupid
> > fool! watch what youre doing! ) Anyway, that message came up with no
> > chime, no nothing else, just that message with a yes or no box. I
> > picked no. Then the unit restarted and reactivated. What's with
> > that???
> >
> > are these dumb questions? hope not.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > --
> > Read the List FAQ/Etiquette: http://www.newtontalk.net/faq.html
> > Read the Newton FAQ: http://www.guns-media.com/mirrors/newton/faq/
> > This is the NewtonTalk mailing list - http://www.newtontalk.net
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 23:22:29 -0800
> From: Glenn Roe <myhome_at_cwnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
>
>
> I'd go for Ed's design too. Probably purchase 5 or 6. Would they be green?
>
> Glenn Roe
>
> Josh Shanks wrote:
> >
> > on 3/6/02 7:06 PM, Ed Kummel at tech_ed_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Oh yeah...sorry...this:
> > > http://newton.tek-ed.com/images/newt-shirt.jpg
> > > is one shirt, the top is the front and the bottom is
> > > the back...
> > > I just figured that this wasn't obvious..
> > > Ed
> > > web/gadget guru
> > > http://newton.tek-ed.com (download Newton packages)
> > > http://65.84.243.167 (my NPDS server)
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Just because you're a genius, doesn't make you a smart guy!
> > > - The Powerpuff Girls -
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com/
> >
> > I love that design.
> >
> > josh
> >
> > --
> > Have you checked the FAQ lately?
http://www.guns-media.com/mirrors/newton/faq/
> > This is the NewtonTalk mailing list - http://www.newtontalk.net
> > To unsubscribe/manage: visit the above link. Questions:
victor_at_newtontalk.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 02:17:16 -0500
> Subject: [NTLK] Motorola Marco Lives!!!
> From: Newton_User <newton_user_at_mac.com>
>
> Thanks to Franks help, my motorola marco is alive again!!! I guess that
it
> slipped into one of those unexplained "comas" and needed to be drained of
> any power source for a while. Once again, thanks Frank!
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Anthony V. Jeancola
>
> Your Source to Keeping the Newton Dream Alive...
> http://www.geocities.com/newtonresurrection
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:50:28 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/7/02 11:04 PM, David Golden at ikondave_at_charter.net wrote:
>
> >> I think this sounds like the classiest option I've heard so far. I
would
> >> be in favor.
> >>
> >> sj
> >>
> > I would like to see this option explored also. However, I hope that we
don't
> > forget that these shirts are, just as importantly, acknowledging our
> > association with the NewtonTalk group as well as the Newton hardware. In
> > this spirit I would suggest that the word " NewtonTalk " run under the
light
> > bulb image, in gold/yellow, left justified ( in relationship to the
logo ),
> > preferably in a nice classy typeface like Times or Bookman.
>
> Why not the url of the website?
> --
> Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
>
> Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:50:28 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/7/02 11:11 PM, Zachery Bir at zbir_at_urbanape.com wrote:
>
> > Why not Espy? :)
>
> Here, Here!! Good choice--or even casual!
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:50:28 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/7/02 11:39 PM, David Golden at ikondave_at_charter.net wrote:
>
> > I have a personal preference for fonts that use a serif. I find them
easier
> > to read, and they often reduce better. Bookman and Times are also such
> > basics fonts, that everybody out there has at least one of them
available. I
> > also think that they are more in keeping with the classic look of a polo
> > shirt. I used to do this this kind of stuff for a living, but I suppose
I
> > could be out of touch with current trends in typography... ;-).
>
> Well, the words "bookman" and "Times" give you an idea of their original
> purpose--text fonts, designed to be read "in mass" so to speak. For
display,
> where each letter counts, a san-serif font actually fits better. Sheesh,
> however, if we are going to go serif, take a Garamond, squish it to 80% of
> it's width, raise the x-height, and use that--oh wait, that's Apple's
> font... :-)
> --
> Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <jonglass_at_usa.net>
>
> "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of
> chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! - I know not what course
others
> may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
> - Patrick Henry
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:50:28 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/8/02 12:02 AM, Brad Tober at newtontalk_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> > I agree with you as well. Why should we make a Newtontalk specific
> > shirt? If this was 1997 and we wanted to distinguish ourselves from the
> > other Newton users, then OK. However, today in 2002, we're pretty much
> > all here!
>
> Er, that was the original idea--to create a t-shirt for us Newtontalkers.
> Why change it?
> --
> -Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <mailto:jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <mailto:glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
> "[The] law established by the Creator, which has existed from the
beginning,
> extends over the whole globe, is everywhere and at all times binding upon
> mankind. . . . and is paramount to all human control." --Rufus King,
signer
> of the Constitution
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:51:35 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Andreas Lindkvist
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 5:52, Laurent Daudelin at nemesys_at_cox.rr.com wrote:
>
> >> I subscribe to this point
>
> > No need to repeat the same thing 4 time
>
> But he certainly made his point ! ;-)
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:55:23 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Wireless LAN FAQ
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 5:58, Laurent Daudelin at nemesys_at_cox.rr.com wrote:
>
> >> This touches another question which is not answered yet (imho). Is the
> >> source available? Where can it be found? Laurent said that it's on
> >> Hiroshi's site, but I can't find it.
> >
> > It's not there anymore :-(
>
> But I asked if you had it the other day Laurent and you said you did,
> or did I got you wrong and the answer is no ?
>
> (the reason I asked was that I was afraid that exactly this would happen,
> Hiroshi not always been very available)
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:01:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Works footnotes
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 07-03-2002 11:07, Mike Weisman at popeye_at_speakeasy.org wrote:
>
> > Has anyone seen a path that allows one to do footnotes in Works?
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> From: "Michael C. Wittmann" <wittmannmichael_at_mac.com>
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:26:42 -0400
>
> Another idea for footnotes in the Newton might be that you combine
NewtNote
> with EndNote. Supposedly you can combine data bases and then reference
them
> inline with the [## reference] combination that will translate easily from
> rtf to Newton. One last run through on your desktop, and things should
work
> out.
>
> Has anybody used this combination? I can describe what I 'want' to do with
> it, but have never done it. Is what I'm saying possible?
>
>
> From: Hagen.Lang_at_t-online.de (Hagen Lang)
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:45:58 +0200
>
> I just found this in the "Endnote"-manual, seems it=B4s not the right
> programme to solve the problem with unavailable footnotes on the Newton:
>
> "Some points to remember about citations in footnotes and endnotes:
> EndNote does not create the footnote/endnote for you. To use citations in
> footnotes and endnotes, you use your word processing software's commands
> for creating the note, then insert the EndNote citation into the word
> processor footnote or endnote."
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:10:35 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ANN] Updated List FAQ
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 4:34, Victor Rehorst at victor_at_newtontalk.net wrote:
>
> > Hey all. I've found some time and updated the list FAQ with a list
> > etiquette section.
>
> Cool Victor, the only thing I noticed is that the first paragraph
(starting
> with 'When replying to messages you receive from the list, you should
> acquaint ' is repeated so that we can read it twice.
>
> Don't think you were doing that to get the pint across ;-)
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:19:42 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ANN] Updated List FAQ
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 9:10, Robert Benschop at rbenschop_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> > Don't think you were doing that to get the pint across ;-)
>
> And that should have been 'to get the point across of course, never rely
in
> spell checkers, they just want to get you drunk ;-)
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:54:17 +0100 (CET)
> From: <andrew_at_misf67.cern.ch>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] THE Definitive Answer on Wireless LAN
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, John Skinner wrote:
>
> >
> > andrew_at_misf67.cern.ch wrote:
> >
> > > Hey John,
> > >
> > > this is great. This is the first time I hear something new about the
wavelan
> > > driver. It also confirms that Hiroshi is actually working on something
new.
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > When did you hear this?? Do you know more? Time-frame? Now I am
getting
> > > excited!!
> > >
> >
> > Well, don't hold your horses. I think it will be some time before
> > Hiroshi finnishes this software. You see, he already has it working for
> > himself!
>
>
>
> Can we bribe him??
>
> Andrew
> --
> Andrew Maier
> Andrew.Maier_at_cern.ch
> God is real, unless declared integer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Marco Mailand" <Newton2k1_at_mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] weird battery issues 2100
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:57:55 +0100
>
>
> > The unit is off. I take out the battery and replace it with a fully
> > charged battery (both apple nimh packs). I turn unit on. It restarts,
> > meaning reactivates all packages and wipes its immediate memory (some
> > prefs are gone)
> Some prefs are gone is really weird and should not happen.
>
> > Is that normal? Why cant I swap batteries when the unit is off w/o
> > forcing this restart cycle?
> This is completely normal. I normally don't swap batteries w/o connecting
> the AC adaptor (to save the 'hassle' of restart)
>
> > No backup batt, ok, but isnt there some thing in there?
> There's the super cap and I did recently some measurements. I connected a
> digital multimeter and measured its voltage:
> 1. It's nominally 3.3V, so some of the innards work with that at least as
> sleep or backup voltage.
> 2. The voltage dropped very slowly, by about 30mV per minute, but keep in
> mind that the multimeter loads with about 10MOhm.
> 3. If one presses reset and power at the same time the drop rate doubles
> which confirmes that this procedure is helpful to wake-up a MP2k which
can't
> be switched on.
> 4. My Newton did not loose prefs up until a voltage of 1.5V. Lower
voltages
> I didn't try.
> 5. Upon connecting an AC adapter the backup super cap voltage increases
> immediately to 3.3V, there seems to be no delay or slow recharging.
>
> It would be nice to confirm at which super cap voltages the Newton forgets
> all settings or goes to the 'I don't like to wake-up state' but therefore
we
> would need a sort of controlled fast voltage setting, which I couldn't
> realize quickly. Maybe one day...
>
> > One time, when I swapped the batteries while the unit was off, and
> > then pulled the start button, the unit flashed the message "do you
> > want to erase everything
> This is again as it is supposed to be if the NOS 'thinks' that a brain
wipe
> is necessary. You did probably hold down the power switch for more than
10s.
> --
> With best Regards / Viele Gruesse!
>
> Marco Mailand
>
> http://slsbd.psi.ch/timing
> http://slsbd.psi.ch/~mmailand/
> https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=YYD3VUXUVD2YG
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:03:13 +0100 (CET)
> From: <andrew_at_misf67.cern.ch>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
>
>
>
>
> Well there is a PCI/ISA card holder for the Lucen/Orinocco cards made by
> ager (formerly Lucent). But it is aslo said to be relatively expensive. I
> don't know if any PCMCIA/PCI card holder would work?
>
> Andrew
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Robert Hoehn wrote:
>
> >
> > I have a PC on my home network that I was thinking could do my wireless
> > routing for my newton. If I get another PCMCIA Silver Card, wouldn't I
> > need a PCI card that would hold the PCMCIA card? Will any PCI holder
> > work? I heard that there are some people that have used Windoze laptops
> > in Ad-Hoc mode for 802.11 connections, has anyone used these cards in a
> > desktop machine? Thanks.
> >
> > Rob
>
> --
> Andrew Maier
> Andrew.Maier_at_cern.ch
> God is real, unless declared integer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:04:14 +0100 (CET)
> From: <andrew_at_misf67.cern.ch>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Wireless Newt Setup - PCI cage?
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, John Ruschmeyer wrote:
>
> >
> > That's actually what I do here... P100 running NetBSD acting as firewall
and
> > NAT for two subnets, one wired and one wireless.
> >
> > The on difference is that I'm using an ISA PCMCIA holder (a discard from
> > work).
>
>
> So where did you get it from and what brand is it??
>
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> --
> Andrew Maier
> Andrew.Maier_at_cern.ch
> God is real, unless declared integer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:17:02 +0100 (CET)
> From: <andrew_at_misf67.cern.ch>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] AW: Cable for Farallon Ethernet card (2nd attempt)
>
>
>
>
> OK,
>
> I finally managed to repair my Farallon ethernet card. I took the
> connector connecting to the card appart and discovered that two of the
> four cables soldered to the card had been torn off.
>
> It is not that easy to take this connector apart and I might have made
> things worse while disconnecting. Anyhow, after removing them all and
> resoldering them. Every thing seems fine now. I probably should find time
> to document this all on a web-page.
>
> Thanks for all the friendly help and suggestions. In particular to Marco
> Mailand
>
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew Maier
> Andrew.Maier_at_cern.ch
> God is real, unless declared integer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:46:35 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: oliver.brose_at_t-online.de (Oliver Brose)
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:39:51 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> > From: Stephen Jendraszak <stevehj_at_mac.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 06:02 PM, Brad Tober wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I agree with you as well. Why should we make a Newtontalk specific
> >> shirt? If this was 1997 and we wanted to distinguish ourselves from the
> >> other Newton users, then OK. However, today in 2002, we're pretty much
> >> all here!
> >>
> > I'm fine with the shirt being NewtonTalk specific. My thing is, I would
> > rather avoid writing on the shirt (esp. if it is a polo). Just a logo is
> > simpler and classier in my view.
>
> AFAI read so far, people either want a Polo or a T-Shirt, nobody feels the
> urge for a sweater longsleeve or tanktop, that's good. ;)
> I think we are enough people here to make both, P and T possible, we
should
> just get the design clear.
>
> What about an online vote? (*whistle* I don't know how to do that
*whistle*=
> )
>
> People want (yes/no):
> Polo
> T-Shirt
> Color?
> Chest logo: Newton Lightbulb in gold
> Text: Newtontalk
> Text: Newtontalk.net
> Text: www.newtontalk.net
> Font?
>
> Oliver :)
>
> --
> Ach ja - die Sailor Moon Transformsequenzen sind nat=FCrlich auch
> Hentai... genauso wie Chibi-Usas Gesicht... ^_^
> - MDA in de.alt.anime -
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:10:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Josh Shanks <jshanks_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/8/02 2:08 AM, Robert Benschop at rbenschop_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> >
> > on 08-03-2002 5:04, SlashDevNull at slashdevnull_at_mac.com wrote:
> >
> >> Why do we have to have one shirt?
> >>
> >> Why must it be one order only?
> >>
> >> Why does it have to be a T or polo?
> >>
> >> Why can't we simply pick 6 or so shirts and go from there?
> >
> > Which makes me go back to an idea floated before, why don't we just post
a
> > couple designs on the web and people make their own, especially handy
for
> > people not in the US. (avoids all the shipping)
> >
> > Victor could still make them central for North America, proceeds to
> > NewtonTalk.
> >
> > Just wondering in what form this would be best on the web, guess
Illustrator
> > files would be good technically, but not everybody can read them...
> >
> >
> > Robert Benschop
> >
>
> Well Victor has said he can only do one color shirts and if you make a
shirt
> with a tshirt transfer it will look terrible and after a year the transfer
> will yellow.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 03:10:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: eric engle <engleerica_at_yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Waba Tester !
>
>
> A few days ago I asked whether it was possible to run
> java directly on the newt.
>
> In fact it is!
>
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/saweyer/newton/index.htm
>
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/saweyer/waba/dev/wabadev.htm#WabaTester
>
>
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/saweyer/waba/dev/wabanewton_usecreate.htm#Crea
teNewtonN
>
> (make sure to paste the _entire link...)
>
> You need to have all the waba libraries - but on my
> 120 O.S. 2 it works! It really works! It lets you
> compile raw java into a package! Very very nice!
>
> =====
> My Web sites:
> http://www.geocities.com/engleerica/ (law)
> http://www.geocities.com/newtontechspecs (Newton!)
> Losers are winners if they've got no enemies.
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!
> http://mail.yahoo.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:14:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Patrick Jendraszak <indyibook_at_insightbb.com>
>
> My vote:
>
> Polo: yes
> T-Shirt:
> Color: Black
> Chest Logo: Newton Lightbulb in gold
> Text: www.newtontalk.net
> Font: Garamond
>
> Patrick
>
> -+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.
>
> A Message from Patrick Jendraszak
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 04:46 AM, Oliver Brose wrote:
>
> > What about an online vote? (*whistle* I don't know how to do that
> > *whistle*=
> > )
> >
> > People want (yes/no):
> > Polo
> > T-Shirt
> > Color?
> > Chest logo: Newton Lightbulb in gold
> > Text: Newtontalk
> > Text: Newtontalk.net
> > Text: www.newtontalk.net
> > Font?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael=20J.=20Hu=DFmann?="
<michael_at_michael-hussmann.de>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:29:59 +0100
>
>
> Philip Katz (pkatt_at_mac.com) wrote:
>
> > Apple Garamond is good if this shirt was to be about a current product.
> > Remember that back in 1997 and earlier, Apple didn't use Garamond (I
think)
> > so it really isn't appropriate for a shirt commemorating a product from
that
> > time period.
>
> Apple has been using Apple Garamond for much longer (Apple Garamond Light
> was used for the MP120 manual), but hadn't we agreed that Apple should be
> kept out of this? (Apple Garamond isn't even available outside Apple,
> although Garamond Narrow is close enough for many purposes.)
>
> - Michael
>
>
> Michael J. Hussmann
>
> E-mail: michael_at_michael-hussmann.de
> WWW: http://michael-hussmann.de
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:39:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Josh Shanks <jshanks_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/8/02 6:29 AM, Michael J. Hu=DFmann at michael_at_michael-hussmann.de
wrote:
>
> >=20
> > Philip Katz (pkatt_at_mac.com) wrote:
> >=20
> >> Apple Garamond is good if this shirt was to be about a current product.
> >> Remember that back in 1997 and earlier, Apple didn't use Garamond (I
thi=
> nk)
> >> so it really isn't appropriate for a shirt commemorating a product from
=
> that
> >> time period.
> >=20
> > Apple has been using Apple Garamond for much longer (Apple Garamond
Light
> > was used for the MP120 manual), but hadn't we agreed that Apple should
be
> > kept out of this? (Apple Garamond isn't even available outside Apple,
> > although Garamond Narrow is close enough for many purposes.)
> >=20
> > - Michael
> >=20
> >=20
> > Michael J. Hussmann
> >=20
> > E-mail: michael_at_michael-hussmann.de
> > WWW: http://michael-hussmann.de
> >=20
> I have Apple Garmond. And I am sure with the small number of shirts we are
> doing apple wont mind.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 05:35:44 -0600
> From: good-dog_at_northshore.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
>
>
>
>
> "Michael J. Humann" wrote:
> >
> > Philip Katz (pkatt_at_mac.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Apple Garamond is good if this shirt was to be about a current
product.
> > > Remember that back in 1997 and earlier, Apple didn't use Garamond (I
think)
> > > so it really isn't appropriate for a shirt commemorating a product
from that
> > > time period.
> >
> > Apple has been using Apple Garamond for much longer (Apple Garamond
Light
> > was used for the MP120 manual), but hadn't we agreed that Apple should
be
> > kept out of this? (Apple Garamond isn't even available outside Apple,
> > although Garamond Narrow is close enough for many purposes.)
> >
>
> How about a page with the typeface choices that we could all look at?
> Side by side it should be easier to see and decide.
>
> I also like the idea of a page showing different designs. To me it's
> going to be easier to decide visually than reading a written
> description. After all, it's going to be a visual effect.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:58:38 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] QuickFigure Exchange for Macintosh
> From: Jon Glass <jonglass_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 3/6/02 9:23 PM, John Morton-Aslanis at maslanis_at_hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for qfexchange files for macintosh. I want to be able to
import
> > excel 2001 files to my Newton. Anyone know where I can get it?
>
> I might have a copy, but it will take me a while to find it. I'm not
> guaranteeing anything, but I thought I had it, and if I had it, I still
have
> it. The problem, if I do have it, is that it is on a floppy. I don't have
a
> floppy drive--but my wife does... I'll try to look this evening.
> --
> Jon Glass
> Krakow, Poland
> <jonglass_at_usa.net>
> <glasshaus5_at_aol.com>
>
> Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:06:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] QuickFigure Exchange for Macintosh
> From: Robert Benschop <rbenschop_at_mac.com>
>
>
> on 08-03-2002 12:58, Jon Glass at jonglass_at_mac.com wrote:
>
> >> I'm looking for qfexchange files for macintosh. I want to be able to
import
> >> excel 2001 files to my Newton. Anyone know where I can get it?
> >
> > I might have a copy, but it will take me a while to find it.
>
> I just mailed it to John, just hope he's working on a Mac since that's all
I
> have.
>
>
> Robert Benschop
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:47:41 -0600
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Philip Katz <pkatt_at_mac.com>
>
>
> On 3/8/02 5:29 AM, "Michael J. Hu=DFmann" <michael_at_michael-hussmann.de>
wrote=
> :
>
> >=20
> > Philip Katz (pkatt_at_mac.com) wrote:
> >=20
> >> Apple Garamond is good if this shirt was to be about a current product.
> >> Remember that back in 1997 and earlier, Apple didn't use Garamond (I
thi=
> nk)
> >> so it really isn't appropriate for a shirt commemorating a product from
=
> that
> >> time period.
> >=20
> > Apple has been using Apple Garamond for much longer (Apple Garamond
Light
> > was used for the MP120 manual), but hadn't we agreed that Apple should
be
> > kept out of this? (Apple Garamond isn't even available outside Apple,
> > although Garamond Narrow is close enough for many purposes.)
> >=20
> > - Michael
> >=20
> >=20
> > Michael J. Hussmann
> >=20
> > E-mail: michael_at_michael-hussmann.de
> > WWW: http://michael-hussmann.de
> >=20
> Not available outside of apple "legally"!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:54:41 -0500
> Subject: [NTLK] making a Waba app.
> From: Thomas Cherry <jceaser_at_mac.com>
>
>
> Hope no one things this letter is off topic, but I am trying to compile
> a waba app for my newton. All seems to work fine, I can compile, run
> warp, and then exegen to create a newton package, but when I run the app
> on my newton, it says that it can not find the class WabaHelloWorld (the
> name of my class that extends MainWindow). To test things, I tried to
> run the applet viewer (java waba.applet.Applet WabaHelloWorld) but from
> that I get the following stack trace:
>
> [java] java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: WabaHelloWorld
> [java] at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
> [java] at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
> Method)
> [java] at
> java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
> [java] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:297)
> [java] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:253)
> [java] at
> java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:313)
> [java] at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> [java] at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120)
> [java] at waba.applet.Applet.init(Applet.java:62)
> [java] at waba.applet.Applet.main(Applet.java:153)
> [java] Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> [java] at waba.applet.Applet.init(Applet.java:68)
> [java] at waba.applet.Applet.main(Applet.java:153)
>
> Looks like the applet can not find my class. Has anyone come across
> this before?
>
> --
> It is pointless to resist. - Darth Vader, Sith Lord
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:53:35 -0600
> From: good-dog_at_northshore.net
> Subject: [NTLK] OT: Building root directory help
>
>
> Folks;
>
> Can anyone lend me a hand with some website building information? Please
> respond privately.
>
> I'm having trouble building a root directory that will transfer with ftp
> up to the server in such a way that all the files work together as they
> do when I do practice runs at home. On my ibook everything runs great.
> On the server, nothing works except the main page, and even there the
> images are missing.
>
> I've been trying to find the information in my Pagemill book, Visual
> Quickstart Guide, PeachPit Press, (pagemill came with my imac, so this
> is my starting point with website building programs. Several people have
> suggested Dreamweaver.) but I can't figure it out. I'm stuck.
>
> I understand I must put everything under one folder, so to speak, and
> then everything will waterfall from that, but, I can't get there. I'm
"ignernt".
>
> Can anyone direct me to where I can find accurate, step by step
> information or is anyone willing to walk me through some of this on the
phone?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:02:13 -0500
> From: <markmontoya_at_mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Motorola Marco Lives!!!
>
> Anthony,
>
> Can you use the wireless funtion on the Marco?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:02:13 -0500
> From: <markmontoya_at_mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Motorola Marco Lives!!!
>
> Anthony,
>
> Can you use the wireless funtion on the Marco?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Jochen_Sch=E4fer?=" <js.josch_at_gmx.de>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:09:41 +0100
> Subject: [NTLK] Miracles (was: blank screen problems)
>
>
> Hi there.
>
> There are miracles!
> In this thread I said that my MP120 has screen troubles.
> Now there are gone!
> What have I done, you ask?
> Well, I got a PCMCIA-CompactFlash-Adapter and tried to test
> with my spare unit (the MP120). And voil=E1 no more screen troubles.
> Now let's see if it persists.
>
>
> Jochen
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:11:28 -0500
> From: <beaumontj_at_mindspring.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] yet another t-shirt idea
>
> How about on the front:
>
> Egg freckles?
>
> And on the back:
>
> Newtontalk
>
> :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 08:22:02 -0500
> From: <markmontoya_at_mindspring.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Are all Newt cases the same color and feel.
>
> Are all the newt cases the same color and feel. I was looking at a picture
of a MP110 and it looks black instead of the "greenish" color of my MP130.
My 13o is smooth like hard plastic, but my 2100 has a "rubberized" feel. Any
ideas?
>
> Mark
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:29:04 +0000
> From: Andy Collins <andy.collins_at_belgravium.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Idea for Newt Sync development
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've been looking around for a sweet way of synching new Newt and desktop
> together for a few years now but haven't really found the right tool.
>
> I know there are solutions but they all involve doing exports to files,
> monkeying around a bit and it seems, certainly on the Win PC side, that
all
> of the target software is barely supported, if at all.
>
> I few people have suggested writing Win/Pc apps to help but I've been
> thinking round the other way.
>
> How about we come up with a Newt app that emulates Palm's sync protocol
for
> Palm Desktop? A bit like Sloup I suppose. That way, we'd have access to a
> current desktop app.
>
> It appears to be available for download from the Palm site for free and
> even if they charged, I suspect that most people with the need to sync
> wouldn't mind paying just to get some current software that does the job
> without the file munging.
>
> I've had a sniff around and it seems that the protocol is well documented
> but I'm not as Newton proggy by any stretch.
>
> Is anyone out there willing to have a go?
>
>
> Cheers.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:52:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NewtonTalk T-Shirts?
> From: Zachery Bir <zbir_at_urbanape.com>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 06:02 , Brad Tober wrote:
>
> > I agree with you as well. Why should we make a Newtontalk specific
> > shirt? If this was 1997 and we wanted to distinguish ourselves from the
> > other Newton users, then OK. However, today in 2002, we're pretty much
> > all here!
>
> Precisely because we're not sanctioned by Apple. Why should they
> get all the credit if _we_ commission the shirts? Pretty much
> because we're all here... on Newtontalk...
>
> Zac
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of newtontalk Digest V2 #198
> ********************************
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