Re: [NTLK] Avoid GEM ENTERPRISES - they are just Fraudsters!!

From: David Orriss Jr (dave_at_davenet.net)
Date: Fri Sep 06 2002 - 08:11:42 PDT


This behavior I have found to be typical. If you purchase something via
eBay they tend to be courteous and professional (because they value that
eBay score). If you use other channels, they seem to not care and pretty
much dump all over you.

My advice: In spite of the few positive comments here, avoid them. Their
business practices are questionable, IMHO, to say the least.

On Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:23 PM,
Adam Macks <akmacks_at_ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> On 4/9/02 9:33 AM, "Arne Christiansen" <captarne_at_mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I also have never had a problem with Gem Enterprises. I always have
>> received from them exactly what was advertised.
>> Arne
>>
>
> My experience with GEM Enterprises was very pleasant - UNTIL I paid
> them for a deposit on two Brand New MP2100s (selling a few months
> ago) advertised privately by a newton-talk community member. After
> this I felt I was not treated as an all important customer, but
> another potential sucker - against whom they were trying to find any
> potential fault they could use to forfeit my deposit.
>
> They onsold them a few weeks later, to another person. And would not
> refund my money, then they had the cheek to say they had another two
> available for $50 more than I paid deposit for, but without all the
> accessories.
>
> Because I paid through paypal, there is no protection for
> international buyers. The purchase was not initiated through ebay, so
> no protections come from that either. My credit card company can not
> reverse the transaction because paypal did not do anything wrong -
> they just transferred the money as I asked. I should have insisted
> that the transaction occur through my credit card, then I would have
> been able to dispute the transaction. They know that the customer can
> use these methods to protect themselves, so they try not to use these
> payment types.
>
> I know I should have been less gullible - but they are not honest,
> ethical people.
>
> They are preying on us as suckers.
>
> I'm obviously doomed if I leave negative feedback! I'm sure they have
> a lurker here so I'll expect negative feedback on ebay anyway (they
> know my username).
>
> The best way to treat these people would be to send them mail bombs,
> virii, etc, until it costs them the same as it did for me.
>
> People here who keep buying off them are just justifying to GEM that
> they can keep treating people the way they are.
>
> Adam Macks, Australia

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