From: gmoody_at_gmx.net
Date: Thu Jun 10 2004 - 15:05:32 PDT
I agree that he should be able to recover his cost, but not 6 times:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5702956374
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5703218689
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5703218810
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5703521244
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5703609713
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27966&item=5703770007
These could easily be registered copies, since Hiroshi uses a "keyword"
registration scheme that is not dependent on the owner's name. Even if
these are not registered, Hiroshi's agreement is that the driver is not
posted in any public place, which eBay most certainly is. The seller could
have provided a link to Hiroshi's site, but his was not, appaently, done.
I've already sent an email to Hiroshi with the above links.
Regards,
Gary
Original Message:
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From: kareljansens kareljansens_at_tiscalinet.be
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:36:02 +0200
To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Ebay seller offering Hiroshi driver
Op donderdag 10 juni 2004 22:52, schreef Doug Parker:
> Has anyone emailed the seller?
>
> A ruthless vendor selling Hiroshi's driver illegally can ruin a good thing
> for everyone if it gets pulled, and although we may not be able to stop
> them, we can and need to do what we can to get him to 'fess up offline and
> to cease and desist.
>
> If it's a clueless but (I hate to put it this way) unintentional seller,
> then the right outcome, to cease and desist, should be easy to accomplish
> and I wouldn't expect any major problems in getting them to stop.
>
> It's the intentional, criminal seller who can do the most damage. Those of
> you who've bought from this user, it would be well and good to contact
them
> offline, if you haven't already and since you already have a business
> relationship with them, to inform them.
>
> In the end, we'll have shown Hiroshi through our efforts that we support
> him appropriately.
Not to sound as if I want to defend software thieves, but how do we know
that
the seller is doing something wrong? Surely, if he bought the product from
Hiroshi, he is free to sell it on, right?
Karel Jansens
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