[NTLK] another RIP view

Laurence W Brown lwb at mac.com
Sun Oct 9 23:07:20 EDT 2011


LOL! Superbly put!

Sent from my 2Pad…

On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:29, McJohn <mcjohn at oplink.net> wrote:

> I've always considered it simple-mindedly specious and reflexively 
> reactionary to claim that breakthrough technology "makes" users 
> "insular" or "self-absorbed".  To take just one out of innumerable 
> examples, the Siri ad released this week shows a sight-impaired user 
> interacting with her iPhone exclusively by audio.  It seems to me as 
> though her experience of Siri will be one of expanding her horizons 
> rather than otherwise, and she's part of a population that, to be 
> brutally honest, Apple didn't have to spend three seconds attempting to 
> serve.
> 
> As has been remarked on more than one occasion, Mr. Jobs seems to have 
> understood the importance of intersections: between technology and the 
> liberal arts, between form and function, between engineering and 
> aesthetics, between human and device.  Along the way, he polished out 
> the friction common to interactions between humans and their 
> environment, making the use of an Apple device easier, and thus more 
> rewarding, than working with non-Apple technology.  I am of the opinion 
> that having hands-on experience with It Just Works has taught many of us 
> to adopt that attitude in our own interactions with others; if you can 
> work with technology, you can work with other people, and if you can 
> work with other people, you can, say, find the collective courage to 
> stand before a line of tanks and still demand accountability out of your 
> own leaders.
> 
> Doesn't surprise me that the opinionator claims the use of iTech makes 
> others self-centered; if she frequently expressed such Luddite 
> prejudices around me, I'd spend a lot of time with my earbuds in too.
> 
> On 10/9/11 6:39 AM, Clu wrote:
>> On 10/9/11 5:52 AM, Bob Carls Dudney wrote:
>>> "...the cumulative effect of all [Jobs'] ingenious electronic devices
>>> is to train the attention of a huge population narcissistically
>>> inward.
>> I think I was the exact opposite.  I was an introvert that became an
>> extrovert due to computers.   I had my own creative world, and for the
>> most part I kept to myself.   I learned to talk to people over the
>> computer (BBSs and all) and over time, when I met up with them (BBS
>> parties) I learned to talk to people better and better in person.
>> 
>> But on the computer initially was where I learned to converse, debate,
>> and so on.
>> 
>> So this statement might be true, but not in all cases.
>> 
>> Greg / Doc Clu
>> 
>> 
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