[NTLK] another RIP view

[J.M. Heinrichs]

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Do_It.txt

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Calculator_Construction_Set.txt

Cheers
John
 minicapt1 at mac.com

On 09 Oct 11, at 20:07, Laurence W Brown wrote:

> LOL! Superbly put!
> 
> Sent from my 2Pad…
> 
> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:29, McJohn <mcjohn at oplink.net> wrote:
> 
>> I've always considered it simple-mindedly specious and reflexively 
>> reactionary to claim that breakthrough technology "makes" users 
>> "insular" or "self-absorbed".  To take just one out of innumerable 
>> examples, the Siri ad released this week shows a sight-impaired user 
>> interacting with her iPhone exclusively by audio.  It seems to me as 
>> though her experience of Siri will be one of expanding her horizons 
>> rather than otherwise, and she's part of a population that, to be 
>> brutally honest, Apple didn't have to spend three seconds attempting to 
>> serve.
>> 
>> As has been remarked on more than one occasion, Mr. Jobs seems to have 
>> understood the importance of intersections: between technology and the 
>> liberal arts, between form and function, between engineering and 
>> aesthetics, between human and device.  Along the way, he polished out 
>> the friction common to interactions between humans and their 
>> environment, making the use of an Apple device easier, and thus more 
>> rewarding, than working with non-Apple technology.  I am of the opinion 
>> that having hands-on experience with It Just Works has taught many of us 
>> to adopt that attitude in our own interactions with others; if you can 
>> work with technology, you can work with other people, and if you can 
>> work with other people, you can, say, find the collective courage to 
>> stand before a line of tanks and still demand accountability out of your 
>> own leaders.
>> 
>> Doesn't surprise me that the opinionator claims the use of iTech makes 
>> others self-centered; if she frequently expressed such Luddite 
>> prejudices around me, I'd spend a lot of time with my earbuds in too.
>> 
>> On 10/9/11 6:39 AM, Clu wrote:
>>> On 10/9/11 5:52 AM, Bob Carls Dudney wrote:
>>>> "...the cumulative effect of all [Jobs'] ingenious electronic devices
>>>> is to train the attention of a huge population narcissistically
>>>> inward.
>>> I think I was the exact opposite.  I was an introvert that became an
>>> extrovert due to computers.   I had my own creative world, and for the
>>> most part I kept to myself.   I learned to talk to people over the
>>> computer (BBSs and all) and over time, when I met up with them (BBS
>>> parties) I learned to talk to people better and better in person.
>>> 
>>> But on the computer initially was where I learned to converse, debate,
>>> and so on.
>>> 
>>> So this statement might be true, but not in all cases.
>>> 
>>> Greg / Doc Clu
>>> 
>>> 
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