I thought that that the device used for phone phreaking was the blue
box. I thought that they cracked down on that and changed the system
long before the Newton.
-James
>
>Paul Nuernberger <pen1_at_spiff.net> wrote:
>
>
>A 'redbox' was a device that put out perfect tones to "phreak" the phone
>system into giving you, among other things, free calls.
>
>Paul Nuernberger
>
>
>> From: "Gregory J. Wayman" <gwayman_at_mac.com>
>> Reply-To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
>> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:39:22 -0700
>> To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
>> Subject: [NTLK] Krimson
>>
>>
>>
>> I was going through some old shareware downloads and found this pkg, any
>> ideas what it is. This is the read me (sounds kinda spooky, huh?)
>>
>> *** =B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4 KRIMS=
>> ON 1.0 =B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4=B4
>> ***
>>
>> Krimson is a little app made for the Apple Newton. It's primary
>> purpose is to be a redbox, thus the name "Krimson". The package is
>> quite small (59K) and should do it's purpose well. There's two rules
>> before installing this...
>>
>> 1) Don't use this utility to commit criminal acts and embarass
>> yourself.
>>
>> 2) If you don't know what a redbox is, you shouldn't have downloaded
>> this package.
>>
>> Remember, I am held in no way responsible for your actions regarding
>> this program. It is provided as an educational tool only. Oh yeah, and
>> the program includes a little tiny bit of help from Apple Dev. Support.
>> (Apple wanted me to say that, so there you go). Have fun. -- Torstein
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox_at_peorth.gweep.net>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] 20 Mb linear card
>Date: 06 Aug 2001 19:52:29 -0400
>
>
>* mark.fellows_at_unitedmessaging.com (Mark Fellows) on Mon, 06 Aug 2001
>| So why does it say "Minimum bid: $100.00" in the Bidding section of that
>| auction?
>
>Because the seller doesn't understand how Dutch auctions work.
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>
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>
>Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 01:54:29 +0000
>From: GUY MITTAUX <guy.mittaux_at_free.fr>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] 20 Mb linear card
>
>Except that for this card you cannot bid for less than $100 per card.
>
>Guy
>
>
>Michelle Sagara West wrote:
>
>> >Hmmmm...seems overpriced when compared to the one I just won yesterday for
>> >$35... See here:
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1260514903&r=0&t=0&sh
>> >owTutorial=0&ed=996987396&indexURL=0&rd=1
>> >
>> >Same card!
>>
>> It's a dutch auction. there's an opening bid and you bid -lower- than
>> that. The highest bid at the end (or in this case the highest successful
>> bid) will win. So someone could in theory bid 10.00 for the card and if
>> there are a lot of 'em, that's the price that everyone will get the card
>> at. So I think it's a little bit too early to judge whether or not it's
>> overpriced, since the auction isn't over yet ...
>>
>> I'm not affiliated with the auction or with ebay, fwiw.
>>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] problems with ethernet card 3Com 3C562D/3C563D
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:59:29 -0400
>From: Mark Ross <markross13_at_home.com>
>
>
>>
>>hello everybody: i bought one of these 14 bucks cards at computer-show.com
>>and it appears to be that this was a mistake. I didn't find a driver for
>>the above-mentioned card and decided to install the other farallon and 3com
>>drivers available, but i had no success at all. any recommendations what to
> >do now? Thanks a lot. Olli.
>>
>
>Olli,
>
>Several people on this list have purchased these cards (using our free
>drop ship service) and have been successful with them, so I know they
>work. I'm not sure where they obtained the drivers.
>
>
>Mark Ross
>markross13_at_home.com
>
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>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: carpman_at_newtontracker.net
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Krimson
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:18:48 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>
>> A 'redbox' was a device that put out perfect tones to "phreak" the phone
>> system into giving you, among other things, free calls.
>>
>
>Note to the unenlightened, this won't work anymore, and in the US,
>ma' Bell dosn't take kindly to it. :)
>
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>| Somebody set us up the bomb |
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:21:08 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Rodney Withers <mryendor_at_yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Tips on starting a Newton User.
>
>
>Austin, Tx.
>
>--- Woo Lee <vitcitylb_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> What city are you in?
>> ------------------
>> >I'm thinking about starting a Newton User Group
>> where
>> >I live however before I invested in something like
>> >that I want to throw this out to you all because
>> I'm
>> >sure one of you has done this and you can tell me
>> some
>> >do's, don'ts' and don't even try its'.
>> >
>> >If not, I'm sure you can point me to good sources
>> that
>> >will educate me.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance for you assistance,
>> >
>> >rw
>> ------------------
>>
>> !ooW %-)
>> My Newt. will still be productive way after the last
>> Palm/Handspring is
>> six-feet under.
>> http://www.newtontalk.net
>>
>>
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>From: "Samuel Jacobson" <sjacobso_at_chuma.cas.usf.edu>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] backlight hum A new 2100
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:10:24 -0400
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm., not my uMP 2000. It tends, for what I feel, to be rather noisy when
>I use the backlight...
>
>Always,
>
>Sam
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Eric Byrne" <ericbyrne_at_eircom.net>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] wearing out internal memory? (longish)
>Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:49:17 +0100
>
>
>Hello again,
>further to PCBman's reply to my original message;
>
> I wrote:
>My worry is this;
> Although flash memory has a lifespan of approx. 100,000 read/write cycles,
>
>> That should read "write/erase cycles" and depending on the chips used
>could
>> be
>> anywhere from 100K - 1M
>
>True! I was thinking of flash cards and the read/write voltages!(5v/5v or
>5v/12v)
>But any flash ram cards I have purchased have quoted 100,000 write/erase
>cycles.
>Perhaps this is an average amount, and I have no idea how this compares to
>the flash ram
> in the Newton's internal memory? Any ideas?
>
>> As a block "dies" it is marked defective and is ignored from that point
>on.
>> The flash
>> will continue to operate but with reduced capacity.
>>
>> Not sure if the Newton OS has any kind of "wear-leveling" but this would
>> tend to
>> increase the flash life by even use of the blocks.
>
>I could be wrong here but I think that the Newton OS is not that
>sophisticated in
>this regard, and when a block or more die on a storage card anyhow, the card
>is shot?
>I think that laptops are better in this regard?
>
>
>> When you store a pkg on the Newton it is written to flash. But once it is
>> there, it
>> will stay there until it is erased. As you run a program, a copy of it is
>> put in dram
>> and it runs from there. The data you put in it, also gets put in dram. It
>> gets put in
>> Flash periodically.
>> I am not aware of the Flash being constantly written to and so it might
>not
>> get the kind
>> of wear you first thought.
>>
>> Now I am a hardware Guy and you programmer types might shed some light on
> > the inner software workings of the Newton that I have misunderstood.
>
>I see what you mean, but this also means that even defaulting all new info
>to a storage card,
>the Newton's dram still gets used to some extent (of course).
>Considering that I am entering up to 10-15 meetings and perhaps the same
>amount of notes every day for 4 years plus,
>apart from using it for e-mails, internet etc., I am still worried about
>wear as I intend to use my Newton for the next 5 years+ at least.
>But I think that you are correct in saying that the internal flash doesn't
>get as much wear as I first thought.
>Any feedback regarding heap/speed issues of storing all new info on storage
>cards, and/or prospective life of the internal components of the Newton,
>would be much appreciated,
>yours,
>Eric Byrne
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "John M. Powell" <iwillbefreedotcom_at_earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] wearing out internal memory? (longish)
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:53:11 -0500
>
>
>Maybe we should start working on how to replace the internal FLASH if/when
>it
>goes bad?... I seem to remember someone saying there was some data
>programmed
>in that FLASH memory at a certain place? David H? Any way for us to deal
>with
>this should the need arise in the future?
>
>John
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
>> [mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of Eric Byrne
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:49 PM
>> To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] wearing out internal memory? (longish)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello again,
>> further to PCBman's reply to my original message;
>>
>> I wrote:
>> My worry is this;
>> Although flash memory has a lifespan of approx. 100,000
>> read/write cycles,
>>
>> > That should read "write/erase cycles" and depending on the chips used
>> could
>> > be
>> > anywhere from 100K - 1M
>>
>> True! I was thinking of flash cards and the read/write voltages!(5v/5v or
>> 5v/12v)
>> But any flash ram cards I have purchased have quoted 100,000 write/erase
>> cycles.
>> Perhaps this is an average amount, and I have no idea how this compares to
>> the flash ram
>> in the Newton's internal memory? Any ideas?
>>
>> > As a block "dies" it is marked defective and is ignored from that point
>> on.
>> > The flash
>> > will continue to operate but with reduced capacity.
>> >
>> > Not sure if the Newton OS has any kind of "wear-leveling" but this would
>> > tend to
>> > increase the flash life by even use of the blocks.
> >
>> I could be wrong here but I think that the Newton OS is not that
>> sophisticated in
>> this regard, and when a block or more die on a storage card
>> anyhow, the card
>> is shot?
>> I think that laptops are better in this regard?
>>
>>
>> > When you store a pkg on the Newton it is written to flash. But
>> once it is
>> > there, it
>> > will stay there until it is erased. As you run a program, a
>> copy of it is
>> > put in dram
>> > and it runs from there. The data you put in it, also gets put
>> in dram. It
>> > gets put in
>> > Flash periodically.
>> > I am not aware of the Flash being constantly written to and so it might
>> not
>> > get the kind
>> > of wear you first thought.
>> >
>> > Now I am a hardware Guy and you programmer types might shed
>> some light on
>> > the inner software workings of the Newton that I have misunderstood.
>>
>> I see what you mean, but this also means that even defaulting all new info
>> to a storage card,
>> the Newton's dram still gets used to some extent (of course).
>> Considering that I am entering up to 10-15 meetings and perhaps the same
>> amount of notes every day for 4 years plus,
>> apart from using it for e-mails, internet etc., I am still worried about
>> wear as I intend to use my Newton for the next 5 years+ at least.
>> But I think that you are correct in saying that the internal flash doesn't
>> get as much wear as I first thought.
>> Any feedback regarding heap/speed issues of storing all new info
>> on storage
>> cards, and/or prospective life of the internal components of the Newton,
> > would be much appreciated,
>> yours,
>> Eric Byrne
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:49:16 -0400
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Apple's TIL retired
>From: "Eric L. Strobel" <fyzycyst_at_home.com>
>
>
>somewhere near the temporal coordinates of 8/6/01 4:45 PM, the entity known
>as C.W. Otto Sohn transmitted the following from oky_at_avalon.net:
>
>>
>> Apple has retired its Tech Info Library (and TIL Archive) and replaced it
>> with this link:
>>
>> <http://karchive.info.apple.com/>
>>
>> where all Newton MessagePad and eMate articles can be accessed now. It's a
>> drag and cumbersome because there is no Newton Index any longer (by
>> product, by OS version, etc.). That's why "Steve" and Apple call it LEGACY.
>>
>> Well, I guess we have to live with it.
>>
>>
>> Here's what "Steve" wrote me when I complained a couple of days ago:
>>
>> *****
>>
>> At 2:41 PM -0500 8/6/01, Apple wrote:
>>> RE: TIL Tech Info Library
>>>
>>> C.W,
>>>
>>> Thank you for reporting this error. We are aware of this issue and we are
>>> working on correcting it. (...).
>>>
>>> The TIL was retired on August 2, 2001. The Knowledge Base contains all
>>> information for Power Macintosh G3 products (Nov. 97) and forward. All
>>> legacy products can be located in the Knowledge Archive at:
>>> karchive.info.apple.com
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>
>
>Astounding, isn't it? One of the things that was always in Apple's favor
>was that the company recognized how long their machines last and offered a
>reasonable amount of support for the older machines. I didn't retire my
>Plus until well after the PPC's appeared (and only then because a HD died...
>The Plus still sits on a shelf, looking forlorn.). Now, let's see...
>anything prior to G3's are being virtually cut loose??? How shortsighted!
>
>- Eric.
>
>
>
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>
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