Why should I have to conform to a Windows world? To make you happy?
I think not. They way I see it, Windows and its associated protocols
and everything that goes with MS is the proprietary non-conforming
computing world. I just found out today that I cannot get DSL where I
am moving because Qwest made a deal with MS to bundle MSN with the DSL
service. Guess what, the software is Windows only. I don't complain
about it however, because that is my point of view. In a couple of
months I will give up my T1 and revert to modem. One day an alternative
to the MS proprietary crap will be available. Sacrificing my Mac
Experience for a Windows Experience is no fair trade. I'll stick with
my actual OS of which the rest of the world is based off of.
You can download Stuffit Expander and Hotline for windows and download
the stuff yourself. It is NOT proprietary. If the software is PPC only
rather than Newt packages, I see that as an advantage. Again, that is
my point of view. Nobody wants to create or can create a PPC emulator,
so your choices are limited.
I hate to take the bait to a flame war, but this post below I feel goes
outside the boundaries of this list. The Newton is as useful on the Mac
as is the PC. Proprietary NetBOUI or Appletalk or not.
To hear complaints in public about the inability to get hacked wares for
the newton because of false allegations of proprietary protocols and
crap really disturbs me.
Coming to you from the industry standards compliant UNIX operating
system MacOS X.
Cheers.
On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 04:24 AM, R Pickett wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:49, Mark Rollins wrote:
>
>> I just KNOW that somewhere on one of several Hotline Servers there's a
>> collection of Newton hacks/cracks/unreleased stuff, which include
>> something called "tactile.pkg" which registers Tactile products.
>>
>> Search on http://www.tracker-tracker.com/ for "Newton", file type
>> Macintosh - it's about a 10 MB file called "newtonhacks.sit.hqx"
>
> Well.
>
> That's pretty cool to know, but in typical MacOS fashion, that
> apparently requires having a proprietary Hotline or Carracho client to
> access the proprietary servers that use proprietary protocols that are
> reinventions of existing ones.
>
> Which, apparently, requires PPC MacOS.
>
> Which I don't have, so I have to try to run Basilisk II to find an old
> copy of one of them that works on emulated 68K to access these servers
> from my emulated web browser, so I can run my emulated Stuffit Expander
> to get to my cross-platform-happy Newton package files, and all of this
> makes me wonder what the HELL is wrong with http and MIME that we have
> to reinvent the fucking wheel to share files?
>
> And Mac people wonder why their universe is marginalized. Stop making
> up your own protocols and standards, and the world might choose to share
> with you.
>
> Sorry, rant off. None of that specifically aimed at you, Mark, because
> that -is- a cool pointer. I'd just like to be able to GET to it without
> sacrificing my fucking firstborn to Steve Jobs.
>
> And sorry, I'm a little drunk and about to start a flamewar, and I put
> my [OT] in the header so people can filter it out, but I'm -really-
> -really- frustrated by all of this. Please feel free to ignore me;
> it's not about MacOS versus Windows or the like, it's about people.
>
> If I -do- get hold of this file, I'll put its contents up on an actual
> webserver that actual people running actual OS'es (including, gasp,
> NewtonOS) can get to.
>
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