Re: [NTLK] NCU & OS X

From: Andrew Beals (bandy_at_cinnamon.com)
Date: Mon Jan 06 2003 - 14:46:43 EST


On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 08:07:36 -0600, This Old Newt <rich_at_thisoldnewt.net> wrote:
>
>
> > > I'd be very interested in the exact method of "re-installing NCU
> > under
> > > Classic". I'm having the same problem. Maybe a step-by-step would
> > be
> > > helpful to those of us unaccustomed to aposable brains.
> > >
> > > Like those cows in the Gary Larson FAR SIDE cartoon, here we sit,
> > > hearing folks say "hey, why dontcha just re-install NCU under
> > Classic",
> > > and we just turn to each other and blink.
> > >
> >
> I have the same problem
>
> NCU Works fine via serial and ethernet when I am booted in OS9.2
> But if I am booted in OS 10.2 and I run NCU in classic mode I cant get it to work

What do you mean by "cant"?

I have done this very same thing, culminating in success this morning - Newt backup and package installation over AppleTalk. Running the NCU [1.0, 1.1.1] installers under OSX [10.2 + latest from apple as of last week] was an exercise in Patience as they took forever to work. But, they did work. However, NCU insisted on knowing the name of the mac before letting me turn on AppleTalk connectivity.... and the likely correct control panels weren't available under Classic mode.

[Had I been involved in writing NCU I would have defaulted to taking input or something decent instead of just barfing if there were no computer name set!]

So, says I...what if I booted into 9.2 [never had done that before - this machine arrived on Santa's sleigh 12/25] and turned on file sharing, setting the machine's name in the meantime?

After I went through the "setup your new mac to talk to the internet" exercise, I was able to click into the file sharing control panel, finding out that the install procedure had entered the name info for me, requiring only the removal of the snake-y excess 's' after the apostrophe.

[Clearly no one in that group had a last name ending in 's'.]

A little clicking about in the control panels to turn on file sharing and the like, then to Startup Disk to bring me back to the OS X experience, reboot and...

Once X was back up, I found NCU and fired it up. No complaint about "You can't use AppleTalk because no computer name is set." [If memory serves didn't it default to "Macintosh" waaay back in the dark ages of the Eighties?] And no complaints from clicking "Appletalk" under Edit -> Preferences, either, although the display was still frelled, probably due to NCU's team not following "Inside Mac" vols 1->3 faithfully.

Click OK, rig up le newt into my ether, Dock, connect via AppleTalk and voila! It found the computer -- pick it click [x] and then Connect.

Nicey-nice.

Of course I needed a copy of PackType to fix up things so NCU would see them but it works quite well under Classic.

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