Re: [NTLK] Newton Internet Connectivity via LocalTalk and Phonenet

From: Brian (bmcewen_at_comcast.net)
Date: Fri Jul 02 2004 - 19:21:27 PDT


On Friday, July 2, 2004, at 03:42 PM, newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net wrote:

> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:16:43 -0500
> From: "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop_at_ninehells.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton Internet Connectivity via LocalTalk and
> Phonenet
>
> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 08:41:40PM -0700, Chris Adams wrote:
>> I was wondering if it is possible to connect a eMate 300, to a Quadra
>> 800 running Open Transport 1.1.2 and LocalTalk Bridge, via LocalTalk
>> with phonenet being the hardware. So far I can connect to NCU just
>> fine with this hardware setup, but I can't seem to get tcp packets to
>> encapsulate FROM the ethernet to the eMate or TO the eMate from the
>> ethernet. I am working on getting a PCMCIA NIC in the mean time, but
>> I would like to see if I can get this to work until I get set NIC.
>
> NewtonOS doesn't know to look for TCP encapsulated in Appletalk
> packets.
> It knows about TCP on serial lines via PPP, it knows about raw TCP on
> ethernet cards and things that look like ethernet cards, and that's
> about it. So, coping with IP inside Appletalk won't happen until
> someone
> writes a driver for it.

umm... back on my MP130, there was a "connect via MacIP" option...
should still be there for OS 2.1...

There are 2 good utils for providing MacIP. Vicom Softrouter which is
expensive. IPNetRouter which is less, but has a bug that hits a bug in
the Newton and thus won't work for getting your Newton online via
MacIP, even though it will work for serving to many other Apple
computers.

Note this is NOT the more modern "appletalk over IP" protocol (found in
the "connect to server IP" Chooser feature in modern MacOSes) but an IP
protocol carried via appletalk packets, which can happen over serial
and thus keep your MP130 or whatever happy.

Details of MacIP success stories should be in the list archives, and
details of the IPNR bug are buried in the IPNR forums from their
author's website (look for Newton) and posts about it might just have
made the cutoff to be in Victor's Newtonalk list archives.

There's a brief mention in the Newton FAQ as well.

HTH.

B

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