From: DJ Vollkasko (DJ_Vollkasko_at_gmx.net)
Date: Sat Jul 03 2004 - 07:12:42 PDT
>From: "Sonny Hung" <sonnyhung_at_hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [NTLK] Frozen Newton Project Rebirth
>Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:52:19 -0400
>
>Minor Update:
>
>Review Of Current Input: (summary of comments)
>
>Basic Offering:
>- Only for the top and bottom case and screen flip cover. Frank suggested
>this, I too had this in mind already as this would lower cost and make this
>project more likely to succeed.
Split this further down:
1. First lid and clips only.
2. Then top and bottom case. (maybe even split this - 2. top of case first,
3. bottom next).
3. Lastly (if demands exists and people preorder) all the small parts.
-- Gives you more achievable sub-steps, requires less money to get started,
and will build much confidence (between you and the manufacturer, and
between potential customers and you). The lid is a virtually support-free
product, can be produced relatively cheap and might help raise the money
for the next steps. -- What do you think?
>The Japanese effort was a GROUP effort. Everyone placed resources into a
>general fund to fund their venture. I think this would be the best way since
>I am not here to make money but then this depends on the trust level of
>everyone. I have reviewed the orignial documentation from the Japanese
>effort and see that even for them that was the way that they were able to
>afford the cost of fabrication of molds and manufacture of the final
>product. (Singed a Contract)
I think starting with a lid, you could offer a pre-subscription rate to
pre-finance this step. The individual risk on the customer side will not be
as high as for the whole case, so many people will get into this and place
preorders. No contract is needed for this. And then everything just
develops, step by step.
>-No Logo (user should take of this themselves, or installed to transfer?) to
>prevent complications
D'accord.
>-Contacting Japanese Newtonian; difficult – I have tried contacting
>by email those that I found related to the MASA Frozen Newton Project by
>their email addresses, but they were not found on their respective servers.
>(remember this was over 3 years ago) If anyone has a line of communication
>with anyone of them please help me get in contact with them.
Any Japanese Newtonian here at NTLK who can help out? Or any expats in
Japan who might help researching? Come on guys, your Newton needs you! ;=}
>-Student from an Applied Sciences University; If the person suggesting this
>would look into it and provide follow up info. This might be interesting
>– though it may not be advisable as we need professional work here in
>production processing.
I was thinking along the lines that moulding and stuff like this is an
engineering process that is taught in part at applied sciences
universities. People who earn their degrees there will be pretty
professional, and possibly could be interested in doing something like this
as a project. Check local universities and post a note in the respective
hallways, or just ask the Dean or send a mail to the faculty's student
council. Worth a try.
>-Installation – I too could offer this after production is settled. I
>don't have the reputation of Frank (ln knees and bowing to acknowledge him
>as Teacher) or others here on NTLK, Frank's other comment on pre-shipping
>would be a great offer I believe. I however do not have in stock MP2100's,
>though I do have MP2000's, but hesitate as there other considerations to
>contend with such as condition of LCD...etc and user's MP2x00's condition.
There's been good offers by Ken Bush, Doug A. and Frank, so this base
should be considered covered.
What is REALLY needed would be an offer to install a bunch of
BlinkyLights(TM) like Stephanie Maks did. ;=}
>returned a ball park price for molding fabrication and production of 25-30
>that falls within the $150-175 USD range.
I think production could be estimated at 50 cases, possibly more if there's
also some preorders by distributors (cheers GEM and J & K!) and some PR at
Mac blogs and mags around the world, plus 150 lids.
>My next update may be towards the end of Sept or Dec/04.
Please don't let us wait so long, don't be cruel to us! ;=} No, honestly -
look into doing the lid first and whether or not this could be done by end
of August, in time for the conference. Wouldn't that just rock...
Cheers,
DJV.
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