From: Andrew Fox (andrewfox_at_mac.com)
Date: Thu Sep 09 2004 - 03:04:50 PDT
Hi Alex,
Hmm……think i may have stumbled on your problem……… sort of;-)
You say you are not using a hub and therefore must be patching directly
to the eMac? Please correct me if I misread this bit! If this is the
case are you using a xover ethernet cable as I don't think the eMac's
ethernet port auto syncs. I will check at work 2morrow;-)
If that is the case and you have elected to configure your Internet
setup for the 589EC as DHCP things won't work……ever.
Unless you have turned Internet Sharing on on your eMac your Newton is
NEVER going to connect to a DHCP server because there isn't one to
connect to.
Suggestion.
Configure a suitable TCP/IP setup on your eMacs ethernet port using a
Manual address such as ……
IP Address: 10.0.1.100
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Router: not really needed for this but can use 10.0.1.100 if you want!
DNS: not needed
Save this as a separate Location called Newton or whatever;-)
On your Newton configure the settings for your 3com card manually to
match the subnet and subnet mask on your eMac BUT ……
Make the Newton's static IP different …… eg. 10.0.1.50 or 10.0.1.115
etc…etc…
Newton might look like this ……
IP Address: 10.0.1.50
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Router: use 10.0.1.100 if you used this on your eMac
DNS: not needed
The above will put the two machines on the same network and once
plugged together you should be able to ping the Newton's IP using
Network Utility on the eMac.
If the ping succeeds then open Escale on the eMac and once it's
listening open the Dock on your Newt.
Contact me off list if you want/need but then again others may benefit
from what we discover…………;-)
regards
Andrew Fox, Technical Trainer
Apple Computer Division, Renaissance Ltd, Auckland, NZ
> From: Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
> <izabella.misiewiczsantos_at_neostrada.pl>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Escale, patches, card works? walk through
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 04:25:42 +0200
>
>
>
>> Are you guys trying direct connections or through
>> a hub?
>
> Well, I am not going through a hub but something interesting is
> happening.
>
> Of course I setup my 3COM card by going EXTRAS / SETUP / Internet
> Setup, with Internet Setup open I began by creating a New Generic Setup
> and selecting Ethernet as my connection of choice, gave it an
> appropriate name, configured to a DHCP Server and chose MegaHertz 589E
> as that best described my model # 3CCE589ET card.
>
> I also applied the lantern patch
> (http://www.kallisys.com/newton/rustines/) and the 710031 Update
> (http://www.kallisys.com/newton/rustines/) to my Newton.
>
> Apparently the order in which packages are loaded to the newton seem to
> matter, please read
> http://www.unna.org/unna/apple/software/Internet/NIE2/nie_rdme.txt for
> an explanation.
> I can tell you that if you install ethernet support, it is important
> that you install the "NEWTDEV.PKG" before you install the Farallon
> driver, this according to the last mentioned link.
>
>
>
> HERE IS THIS INTERESTING PART
> When I insert the card I get a message on screen identifying the card
> as; "Megahertz 589E, Manufacturer 3Com, TP/BNC LAN PC Card." Within
> the same message I am asked whther I want to Use the card for
> AppleTalk.
>
> I believe this message shows up because of the lantern patch (see above
> for link)
>
> I promptly elect the card to be used for AppleTalk.
>
> I launch Escale (OSX), it waits for a connection from the Newton so I
> tap dock and ask to connect via AppleTalk and connect to other site, I
> am presented with a keyboard layout, from there I choose other, the
> light on my ether net card LIGHTS GREEN!!!! It stays on, it searches
> for a computer, it find my eMac, I don't do anything, the light
> continues on, it remains on for like 5 minutes.
>
> Is the card working I wonder? Is far as I can tell yes, the light is
> on. i hope I am not being bold here. It's late I am tired and who
> knows, t may just stop working.
>
> Let's see
> I give this worksite a name, Alex's Mac and close this window.
>
> The light remains on
> I select connect from the dock, all this time Escale (OSX) has been
> waiting for a sign from the Newton. hmm, something went wrong, it is
> very intermittent. In my dock connect to I have a collection of places
> that are all the same place really, alex's mac.
>
>
> *************************
> It appears I must leave the window that has "select a mac OS computer"
> open, as soon as I close it, the light goes out on the ethernet card's
> cable.
>
> too tired I give up for today
>
> Alex
>
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