From: Johannes Wolf (mp2100_at_mail-gw.estec.esa.int)
Date: Thu Aug 18 2005 - 06:18:32 PDT
Hey, there are plenty of options,
of course using the Ethernet connection is the preferred choice.
In order to do that you need to transfer the ethernet drivers to the Newt.
The easiest way is to use a serial connection - depending what cable you
actually have (PC or Mac) determines the machine you would need to do that.
Of course there are also USB to serial adapters on the market...
The most used transfer tool on the PC/Mac side is NCU - you can download it
from Unna.
Once you have teh Ethernet connection up and running, you need to define a
machine where NCU runs on and that has connection to you local network.
Unfortunately NCU does not run with OS X, so you need the classic
environment or an older machine running on OS 9.
Of course once you have the Ethernet connection functional, you can choose
amongst quiet a number of applications to transfer data up and down. But I
found using NCU (with all the little problems it has) to be a very straight
forward solution.
Cheers
Johannes
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> [mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of John Hay
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] Topology Connection Options
> Question about best way to approach transferring data from desktop to
> Newton 2100:
> As I mentioned a few threads back, I'm Newton user from the late
> '90's, one of the original members of the New York Newton Users Group
> and now kicking myself for bailing out when all the pretty little
> PDA's hit the market, which to this day never came close to my
> Newton. In any event I am now "back", am assembling my Newton(s) and
> hardware from eBay and other sources to try to end up with a good
> hardware stock to build on.
> In approaching the issue of how best to configure a connection(s)
> from my 2100(s) to a desktop I am having to reacquaint myself with
> all I have forgotten from the past. There's only so much "ram" in my
> tiny brain and it's LIFO (Last in, First out) so the further back in
> time the less I can recall.
> My PRIMARY need is to get new packages INTO my Newton. My Secondary
> need would be to enable sufficient and orderly backups, but I believe
> I can eliminate this need entirely for the purpose of this question
> by simply plugging in cards to the Newton to make copies, then
> unplugging and storing the cards. It would also be "nice" to perhaps
> get some data flowing from my Newton to my desktop, but again for the
> purpose of this question I am just asking about installing packages
> to my Newton from my desktop.
> MY OPTIONS for choosing which host desktop and which topology are as
> follows:
> 0) Newton 2100 with Bronze Turbo and 3com 3c589D-TP cards available,
> and serial cable
> 1) Mac dual G5 Desktop with USB, firewire, RJ-45, RJ-15, airport, and
> optical ports
> 2) Mac dual G4 Desktop with USB, firewire, RJ-45, RJ-15 ports, airport
> 3) Mac PowerBook G4, with USB, firewire, RJ-45, RJ-15 ports, airport
> 4) Mac PowerBook G4, with USB, firewire, RJ-45, RJ-15 ports,
> airport, S-Video, and PCMCIA card slot
> 5) Mac iBook, with USB, firewire, RJ-45, RJ-15 ports, airport
> 6) IBM ThinkPad T21 running XP, with USB, RJ-45, RJ-15, Serial,
> Parallel port, and 2 PCMCIA card slots
> 7) IBM ThinkPad 560X running Win98, with USB, RJ-45, RJ-15, Serial,
> Parallel port, and 2 PCMCIA card slots
> 8) Tiger
> 9) Panther
> 10) Jaguar
> 11) Classic
> 12) Hardwired ethernet
> 13) Wireless ethernet via Airport Extreme and/or Express Base Stations
> I don't want to change the PC operating systems.
> I CAN install a fresh install of #8,9,10,or 11 onto an older Apple
> laptop above such as #4, or #5 and DEDICATE the laptop for the sole
> purpose of most efficiently and reliable connecting to my Newton #0.
> My first inclination is to grab one of my IBM <aarrrggghhh!> Laptops
> #6 or #7 simply because they each have serial ports and just use the
> standard serial cable to the Newton, but I hate PC's.
> My next inclination is to maybe install Classic onto my oldest laptop
> which is the iBook #5 above, then I'd at least have a Mac-based host,
> but then there's no serial port.
> My ideal solution would be to use my primary production machine that
> I do most of my work on [graphics, video, etc.] which is the dual G5
> desktop #5 above but it'll always be running the most recent build of
> Tiger, does not have Classic installed [but I can install Classic if
> this would cinch the deal], and again has no serial port [but could I
> reliably do a USB to Serial dongle converter connection here] to my
> Newton?
> So, that's my deal.
> I need advice, big time here, please.
> ANY and all suggestion will be greatly appreciated and no good deed
> will go unrewarded !
> A million thanks in advance from a re-energized lifelong Newton re-
> Newbie,
> John
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