Re: [NTLK] [OT]Concerning Apple's Switch to Intel Chips...

From: Norman Palardy (
Date: Mon Jun 13 2005 - 22:35:23 PDT

On Jun 13, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Martin Joseph wrote:

> On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Norman Palardy wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Ed Kummel wrote:
>>> And think of Intel! Talk about the cat that ate the
>>> canary! Now they can not only dicated how the Windows
>>> OS should operate, but now they can push Apple around
>>> too! woo-hoo! what i would give to be Intel about now!
>>> Ed
>>> web/gadget guru
>> I think you have that relationship backwards.
>> MS dictates more to Intel than Intel does to MS.
> MS can't really push that hard... Unless they are planning to move to
> PowerPC (LOL).

Intel supports AMD's 64 bit extensions becuase MS supported them
forcing Intel to support them.

MS has, for year, dictated what should be in a PC based on specs they
issue at WinHEC.

Intel doesn't tailor the CPU to MS demands (except for the AMD 64 bit
x86 extensions), but lots of other stuff MS dictates.

> I think Apple is going to allow PC users with the know how, to buy OSX
> and install it on there bone stock PC's(someone will figure it out).
> Apple won't support these users, but still they will take there $129.
> That is the way obsolete mac hardware works (ie xpostfacto on older
> macs can run 10.4 we are just unsupported).

True and I have no doubt Apple would do that and make some efforts to
see that OS X shouldn't run on anything but Apple hardware but that
folks will make it work anyways.

> Plus some of these technical hacker types will like OSX and as usual
> Apple will continue to design the nicest PC's in existence...
I think Intel is looking forward to this as well.

> Some of these hacker types will also become Apple hardware customers.
Fingers crossed

> This is a win/win situation for Apple as long as pro Mac users don't
> opt out of Apple hardware (which is unlikely). Powercomputing had some
> success though, so it's a potential worry for them.
Power took away Apple's high end customers which was painful for Apple.
But this time the OS is not licensed, and Apple vends it so it should
not hurt quite so bad if someone figures out how to run it on a Dell
(although Apple would like to have that sale too)

> MS makes a LOT more $ then Apple, mostly from windows, so SJ appears
> to be having visions of grandeur (delusions?) about this whole setup...

no comment ;-)

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