NewtonTalk.net March 2009 archive: Re: [NTLK] My ultimate soluti

From: Ryan Vetter <physicalconstants_at_yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon Mar 30 2009 - 21:49:58 EDT

Hi Jeremy:

I guess you are not using a Classic Mac or OS X...

Under Classic Mac, you can use Newton Toolkit I believe to view your notes.

Also, NoteThing imports all of your Notes and Revelar 2.5 imports your Notes and Works files, among others. NCU does also import Works but Revelar 2.5 is by far the most functional and visual in this respect.

All the best,

Ryan

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeremy O'Brien <obrien654j@gmail.com>
To: newtontalk@newtontalk.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:30:04 PM
Subject: Re: [NTLK] My ultimate solution for transferring notes as attachments

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 09:32:18AM -0400, Tony Morrow wrote:
>
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:40 AM, M. Horvat wrote:
>
> >
> > I sometimes laugh when I see what complicated procedures you 2.x
> > users need to take just to do something that could easily be done
> > on 1.x with the NCK. But then again, we 1.x users can't use 90% of
> > hardware & software.
> >
> > -Matej Horvat
> > Sent from my PC because there's no program to do it on 1.x.
>
> NCU on both Macs and Windows are able to export notes with drawings
> (and I believe formatting) into RTF files if they are small enough in
> size. As long as they don't scroll on the Newton's screen your fine.
> Jeremy's issue was he was using Linux on his PC and his Mac was Intel
> based so he had no way of running NCU on either system without
> virtualization/emulation. Really, it had nothing to do with what NOS
> used, but how to connect the Newton to unsupported systems. I've
> tried running NCU under WINE, but have been unsuccessful in
> establishing a connection over serial.

I have never been able to get any sort of serial/parallel ports working
under wine. I'm not even sure if it's possible. I have been able to get
serial working under DOSBOX, but obviously that only allows running DOS
programs, like Slump. The notes I sent via MailV were longer than one
page, and rather complicated (I used a little bit of every input type.
shapes, sketches, ink text etc). I was really impressed with the
results. I'm curious what the upper limit on note complexity is when
sent via MailV. Oh, as a side note, I can choose whether to send the
note as a GIF or "Default", which sends it as a .nwt file. Are there any
converter tools out there for this format? I haven't found any use for
them.

> To Jeremy:
> Awesome work in getting notes off your Newton to Linux. I've
> contemplated running a simple SMTP server just for the purpose of
> getting stuff off my Newton for archive. I, too, have tried multiple
> ways to export things to Linux and have not had much success with the
> results.

Yeah, I definitely recommend setting up an SMTP server. I used postfix.
If you want my setup, I can give you all the nitty gritty details.
Server and newton side. I'm so happy I got this crap working. I can
finally use the newton with confidence. And the ability to backup/print
my notes is definitely going to come in handy. Long live the newton!

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