[NTLK] OT: A Future That is a Singularity - Evolution
lwb at mac.com
Wed Mar 31 17:44:59 EDT 2010
This delightful post is just one of the many reasons I am addicted to
On 31. Mar.,`10, at 17:14 EDT, Bradley Loeding wrote:
> We are now officially WAY off topic.
> What is mathematics... This question has been asked for thousands of
> There are no answers here. There are only opinions based on varying
> philosophical camps. Which camp you fit into regarding math, whether
> realize it or not, is directly related to how you answer the deep
> philosophical questions on the nature of reality, knowledge, mind,
> The early 20th century saw a grand attempt to properly set the
> of mathematics headed by David Hilbert. It ended in utter failure, and
> produced one of the most startling and important theorems of all time,
> Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. It places limitations on formal
> systems in
> the same fundamental manner that Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
> limits on the knowledge of quantum systems. In my opinion, anyone
> working in
> the hard sciences needs to know about Gödel's theorem and its
> for their field.
> But, getting back the whole Singularity/AI thing... I'd recommend
> Hofstadter's Pulitzer Prize winning book, "Gödel, Escher, Bach". One
> of the
> best books I've had the pleasure of reading. In it he argues that
> theorem suggests, but in no way proves, that the human consciousness
> is a
> phenomenon that may escape explanation in terms of brain components.
> free-will may be emergent in the sense that no Turning Machine, in the
> present or future, would be able to model it.
> Bye, bye singularity. Hello humanity. That is, if anyone is left
> alive after
> we destroy the planet. Aren't you glad we live in a non-Newtonian
> Living in Newton's deterministic clock-like universe would just be so
> boring. Now, speaking of Newtons...
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