[NTLK] iOS Einstein submitted to the Apple App Store

Ken Whitcomb ken at imageguild.com
Thu Feb 10 01:13:15 EST 2011


Hi Larry,
The model that I used for that little experiment was the Wacom  
CTE-430b (Sapphire). I've been using MPs for well over 10 years but  
typically I input in cursive rather than printing so this was a bit  
outside of my box. I'm comfortable marking on the tablet and looking  
at the screen. I think that most of my problems were related to my out- 
of-practice printing skills. After about 10 minutes of practice,  
accuracy improved dramatically.

I'm a little confused about the "Write anywhere" and "Ink in any  
application" options. I presume from my tinkering that these choices  
allow one to "send" handwriting from the ink window to any application  
waiting for input, but I expected to be able to write in the active  
application. Can you confirm which it means?

Thanks Larry,
ken

On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Larry Yaeger wrote:

> Ouch!  Coupla questions...
>
> Which tablet do you have?  The "Bamboo" series is, unfortunately,  
> known to have low temporal and spatial resolution, and is not very  
> good for handwriting recognition, but being the least expensive it  
> is also the most common.  If I were still at Apple I might be able  
> to do something about this by gathering a lot of data from Bamboo  
> tablets and re-training the neural network at the heart of Rosetta/ 
> Inkwell.  But if you have the high end model, then it should be fine  
> for handwriting purposes.
>
> How often do you use your tablet?  With the Newton it takes people a  
> little while to get used to writing on glass, and we even got a  
> significant accuracy increase by simply texturing the screen in  
> later models.  But at least you were writing where you were  
> looking.  With a graphis tablet, it takes people quite a while to  
> get used to writing in one place and looking in another (to see the  
> ink).  Graphic artists who use the tablet all the time usually  
> already have these skills, but if you haven't spent a lot of time  
> with the tablet, it will definitely take some getting used to.  But  
> it will get better.  You'll train yourself to write more like you  
> normally write over time.
>
> That's about the best I can offer... If you've got the low-end  
> tablet, I'm not sure there's anything that can be done.  Maybe write  
> unnaturally slowly.  If you've not used the tablet much, play with  
> it more and get used to it.  Use the "Ink Window" for fun.  And  
> notice that the font is ever so very like the Newton's main font.   
> If you have the high-end tablet *and* you're completely comfortable  
> with the write-here-look-there behavior, then I'm baffled.  It  
> really should be ever so slightly better than the 2100 (according to  
> accuracy tests using the same data we trained and tested with  
> developing for the Newton).
>
> - larryy
>
> At 10:29 PM -0500 2/9/11, Ken Whitcomb wrote:
>> / tried whatLarry and Grant posted & nd am writing this with my Wacom
>> tablet _ Its not exactly like writMg on my Message Pad screen but  
>> W1fh
>> some practice 1 shodd get a little beHer at this. Tweaking the
>> prefrences might help too Ken
>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Grant Hutchinson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Larry Yaeger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I honestly forget how I did it, but I *think* you can dive down
>>>> into the Ink.framework inside the Carbon.framework, find either
>>>> the Ink.prefPane or the Ink.menu (or something like that),
>>>> double-click it, and one way or the other turn on handwriting
>>>> recognition.
>>>
>>> /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Ink.menu
>>>
>>> Double clicking the Ink.menu adds this item to the menu bar:
>>>
>>> http://cl.ly/4UK5
>>>
>>> Selecting Ink Preferences... brings up the Ink prefpane:
>>>



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