[NTLK] another RIP view

[Forrest]

Loved both of those! I really enjoy "behind the scenes" stories, anecdotes, etc.

Thanks,
--Forrest

Sent from my AT&T iPhone 4

On Oct 9, 2011, at 8:26 PM, "J.M. Heinrichs" <minicapt1 at mac.com> wrote:

> http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Do_It.txt
> 
> http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Calculator_Construction_Set.txt
> 
> Cheers
> John
>  minicapt1 at mac.com
> 
> On 09 Oct 11, at 20:07, Laurence W Brown wrote:
> 
>> LOL! Superbly put!
>> 
>> Sent from my 2Pad…
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:29, McJohn <mcjohn at oplink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've always considered it simple-mindedly specious and reflexively 
>>> reactionary to claim that breakthrough technology "makes" users 
>>> "insular" or "self-absorbed".  To take just one out of innumerable 
>>> examples, the Siri ad released this week shows a sight-impaired user 
>>> interacting with her iPhone exclusively by audio.  It seems to me as 
>>> though her experience of Siri will be one of expanding her horizons 
>>> rather than otherwise, and she's part of a population that, to be 
>>> brutally honest, Apple didn't have to spend three seconds attempting to 
>>> serve.
>>> 
>>> As has been remarked on more than one occasion, Mr. Jobs seems to have 
>>> understood the importance of intersections: between technology and the 
>>> liberal arts, between form and function, between engineering and 
>>> aesthetics, between human and device.  Along the way, he polished out 
>>> the friction common to interactions between humans and their 
>>> environment, making the use of an Apple device easier, and thus more 
>>> rewarding, than working with non-Apple technology.  I am of the opinion 
>>> that having hands-on experience with It Just Works has taught many of us 
>>> to adopt that attitude in our own interactions with others; if you can 
>>> work with technology, you can work with other people, and if you can 
>>> work with other people, you can, say, find the collective courage to 
>>> stand before a line of tanks and still demand accountability out of your 
>>> own leaders.
>>> 
>>> Doesn't surprise me that the opinionator claims the use of iTech makes 
>>> others self-centered; if she frequently expressed such Luddite 
>>> prejudices around me, I'd spend a lot of time with my earbuds in too.
>>> 
>>> On 10/9/11 6:39 AM, Clu wrote:
>>>> On 10/9/11 5:52 AM, Bob Carls Dudney wrote:
>>>>> "...the cumulative effect of all [Jobs'] ingenious electronic devices
>>>>> is to train the attention of a huge population narcissistically
>>>>> inward.
>>>> I think I was the exact opposite.  I was an introvert that became an
>>>> extrovert due to computers.   I had my own creative world, and for the
>>>> most part I kept to myself.   I learned to talk to people over the
>>>> computer (BBSs and all) and over time, when I met up with them (BBS
>>>> parties) I learned to talk to people better and better in person.
>>>> 
>>>> But on the computer initially was where I learned to converse, debate,
>>>> and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> So this statement might be true, but not in all cases.
>>>> 
>>>> Greg / Doc Clu
>>>> 
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