[NTLK] List Stats - January 2017

[Gene Beaird]

Agreed!  Not 100% useless after two years, but slowly getting there (death of 1000 cuts?).  I'm still using our original iPad.  I can still read the books and pdfs I have pulled down to it, and it mostly works for web browsing.  Nice bedtime story reader.  I can't watch any videos on it, however, because of the stupid youtube app that was installed BY APPLE during an OS upgrade that won't run the new format, and can't be disabled or removed.  EVERY youtube link I select on a web forum immediately switches to that app, which, of course, won't work.  

Luckily, I don't watch many videos, but it is very frustrating when I do.  I still miss using my Newton, but I'm not as mobile as I used to be, so taking notes on the move isn't as important as it used to be.  

Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas


On Feb 4, 2017, at 7:08 AM, newtontalk-request at newtontalk.net wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:33:48 +0000
> From: Morgan Aldridge <morgant at makkintosshu.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
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> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 05:31 Ronnie Simon <ronnie_simon at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> The ipad unfortunately is useless as a device after 2 years because apple
>> and many apps refuse to support it, unlike linux and windows machines. A
>> 800 dollar throwaway device every 2 years is expensive !
>> 
> I personally disagree with that statement as I know how many iPad 2s are
> still in the world doing good work and running the latest version of iOS
> (and I'm personally still using an iPad mini [2] with Retina display as my
> my primary computer). Apple has been doing much better in the last number
> of years at supporting hardware beyond the 3yr mark (Mac OS X used to be
> notorious for that cutoff), but it did take them getting to a certain
> baseline on their Mac and iOS hardware for them to do so and that left out
> earlier generations of iPads & iPhones.
> 
> That said, I agree completely that the App Store makes it very difficult to
> keep an older device going, as does the inability to get older version so
> of iOS (to the point of not even being able to install older, legally
> downloaded copies as soon as a new version has been released because they
> immediately pull the old signing certificates). The Newton platform was
> proprietary, but very open for extending, but iOS is proprietary and
> extremely paranoid about modification. As an IT guy in the trenches, I
> can't say that wasn't a necessary choice to make a safe, secure, and
> reliable device (and certainly more affordable than the Newtons were).
> 
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> Morgan
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