[NTLK] Newton Ux

Jeff Sheldon jeffsheldon at gmail.com
Tue Mar 14 16:00:25 EDT 2017

All the comments on this topic are extremely valuable.  I especially
appreciate that spectrum of pros/cons/obstacles and grounded thoughts on
the matter.  Part of the reason I first asked was to get an idea of whether
people seem to be fine with things the way they are, design-wise, or if
there's an eventual desire to take things, visually anyway, a different
direction.  This could of course be many years away.

As for color and whatnot, I'm making the assumption that Newton Inc.
considered this inevitability fairly strongly and had some solid ideas in
the works that would have merit in fulfilling.  My message to Mr. Yamashita
was enthusiastically passed on, but I haven't heard anything back yet and
might not (will check back in).

Mostly I'm just curious as to what the general atmosphere around this issue

The comments about iOS and the handheld bring up the issues of tangible
usability and presence.  I just bought a $13 1st gen iPod Touch, jailbroke
it, and am playing around with the idea of compiling a super slow instance
of Einstein for it.  Has anyone already done this on any i-device and have
any thoughts on the usability?  I seem to recall hearing that at least one
person here has done it.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ermin Mistica <erminmistica at gmail.com>

> That's an awesome explanation. I've recently started on a road to a new
> career and am learning how to code. One of the things I promised myself a
> decade ago was to learn NewtonScript if I could and contribute to this
> Operating System/Community.
> Until this day watching the old Newton commercials and demos brings a
> certain "warmth" to my heart. We were really part of a revolution. One that
> the rest of the world is realizing these last ten years with iOS and
> Android. A handheld is commonplace now. Woo Hoo! But none so far really
> touch on the sometimes awkward, very much awesome steps the Newton made.
> I look forward to what comes even if it remains in "hobbyist" hands.
> Newton On!
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> > On Mar 14, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Forrest <newton_phoenix at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, this brings up a thought-provoking question: is there a point in
> the future when we will choose to abandon the original Newton OS in favor
> of a (greatly) improved version?
> >
> > In other words, will we soon choose to run only Einstein (or some
> derivative) instead of the original Newton OS because it offers more
> features, speed, etc.?
> >
> > In a way, this is already happening. While years ago, some on NTLK
> lamented longer messages and content unfriendly to downloading email on the
> Newton itself (such as HTML links); the argument was that one of the joys
> of using the Newton was receiving email from NTLK. Such content/length made
> that less and less viable.
> >
> > I still enjoy reading email on my MP, but it is becoming more and more
> of a challenge. I'm not suggesting that we do away with links or other
> things that impede that process; just that we have moved away from using
> the Newton for such things.
> >
> > Might we (eventually) also move away from the original platform in other
> ways as well?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Forrest
> >
> > Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 6 Plus
> >
> >> On Mar 13, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Grant Hutchinson <grant at splorp.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2017-03-13, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Parnell wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If we got enough people coding away to add unimplemented functions
> then it could be done, but I agree, it’s a huge job!
> >>
> >> That's a perfect application of the infinite monkey theorem.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
> >>
> >> g.
> >>
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