[NTLK] eMate 300 Memory Upgrade

Randy Glenn randy.glenn at gmail.com
Wed Apr 4 22:30:30 EDT 2018


Also, does anyone have the eMate diagnostic PC card? That will probably be
useful for testing whatever card we wind up with.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Randy Glenn <randy.glenn at gmail.com> wrote:

> A larger part might work. From the research I was doing yesterday, the RAM
> chips used in the eMate card have 12 row address bits and 8 column address
> bits, with the lower 8 row bits sharing pins with the column bits. Two
> strobe signals are used to indicate whether the address present is a row or
> column address. A part with 12 or more row bits and 8 or more column bits
> might work - the problem with an exact replacement is that the 1Mx16 chips
> I found still being sold, all use 10 row and 10 column address bits. I
> don't think the eMate will be able to see all of that memory.
>
> If you have a schematic in that ZIP file that you're willing to share, I
> can start checking into alternatives.
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:02 PM, NewtonTalk <newtontalk at pda-soft.de> wrote:
>
>> > Duplicating the layout is probably not a huge problem these days - it's
>> locating compatible RAM and Flash memory. I don't think that stuff has
>> been
>> made in about a decade and a half.
>>
>> Folks, hold your horses for a while. As I recently mentioned on the list,
>> I've bought everything David had left from his SER001 and his eMate
>> upgrade
>> board projects.
>>
>> David also kindly mailed me a zip file that, as far as I can judge it,
>> contains everything I'd need for having new PCBs made. I can't open most
>> of
>> these files, but that's not surprising since I do not have any PCB
>> software
>> on my computer yet. But there are folders named Gerber, Plot, PCB etc. So
>> I'm inclined to think that as to having new boards made, I already have
>> what
>> is required.
>>
>> You probably can't believe this, but my life has been so busy recently
>> that
>> David's box has been sitting on my desk for weeks. So I don't know yet
>> what's in there. I think David mentioned unpopulated boards. I could use
>> those to rig up a 2nd edition prototype. The eMate memory upgrade
>> basically
>> consists of three memory chips. You can buy memory chips today. Most
>> likely
>> not those needed for the board, but so what. The chips you CAN buy will
>> provide much more memory than the original chips and have more pins.
>> However, as long as voltage, current and timing are similar, which they
>> very
>> often are, all it depends on is the pinout. You can easily turn a 16MB RAM
>> into a 4MB RAM by bending two address pins up and wiring them to ground.
>> The
>> eMate wouldn't know it's working with a chip whose memory size we just
>> shrunk (Honey, I shrunk the chips...).
>>
>> Once everything works, we can adjust the data files I have from David and
>> have new boards made.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Frank
>>
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>>
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