[NTLK] Looking for people participating in making a Newton song for Noah's film

Sonny Hung sonnyhung at gmail.com
Sat Feb 17 08:23:06 EST 2018

Oh, I’m not saying it’s not possible.
Since I’m not as familiarity the original ‘American Pie’ song its not comfortable for me to adjust the timing as you sing it to that tune. On songs I’m more familiar I could slow down or speed up here or there to make it fit better though not perfect. The problem for me is keeping the song some what close to the original rhythm of the song. That being said I’ve been listening to the original in short phrases and then trying to sing it which is okay where the words fit better. The difficulty arises when the words require one to improvise timing (slow down or speed up) they you sing the words to fit. It’s possible I think. I’ll keep at it though with more people singing together the difficulty of timing or is it called tempo poses some challenges. I’ll retreat to my second floor rear room while everyone is still asleep and play softly and sing quietly to see if I can make some headway on this. YouTube has been a tremendous friend in learning this original song to try and figure this out. If there are anyone else out there doing thing maybe you can list the problem areas and what you think are ways to sing it.

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> On Feb 17, 2018, at 5:34 AM, Jon Glass <jonglass at usa.net> wrote:
> I don't think it was intended to be sung when it was written. I have tried
> multiple times--every time it shows up--and can't find a way to make it fit
> the music. :-(
>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:23 AM Tom Zahm <tpzahm at newted.org> wrote:
>> I had the same problem.
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Sonny Hung <sonnyhung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Frank,
>>> This is such an intriguing idea.
>>> I’ve been listening to the original song.
>>> Been trying to see how the timing to sing it to those lyrics go but I’m
>> having trouble.
>>> Pulled out my guitar and played the song and even tried singing while
>> listening to a you tube rendition of the original. Can’t say that the
>> timing for me is anywhere decent.
>>> Wish I could listen to some else singing the Newton version.
>>> Just wondering has anyone else tried it out?
>>> Sonny
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 6:19 PM, NewtonTalk <newtontalk at pda-soft.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi gang, most of you will probably remember that Noah has recently dug
>> out
>>>> Avi Drissman's text that is based on the Don McLean song "American Pie".
>>>> Quote:
>>>>> secondly does anyone want to sign/play guitar this
>>>>> and record it to include in the film?
>>>> Since the response so far has been somewhat less than overwhelming, one
>>>> could also say nonexistent, I had an idea that I discussed with Noah. It
>>>> would be a really cool thing if this could become a joint effort of
>>>> musically inclined list members. For one, it would be much more fun.
>>>> Moreover, one's own imperfections would be much less noticeable if one
>> was
>>>> singing or playing along with as many people as possible.
>>>> Of course this will only work if people sing or play, at least to the
>> best
>>>> of their ability, on the same beat and in the same key. This is why I
>> have
>>>> searched for a Karaoke track that is all instrumental. This was much
>> more
>>>> difficult than expected, because most contain parts of the original
>> lyrics
>>>> sung by a choir. But here is an all instrumental one:
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qp7JIelAP8>
>>>> The same beat and the same key, however, aren't sufficient. People will
>> also
>>>> need to work with the same text. Below is Avi's text after some marginal
>>>> modifications by yours truly. I made these modifications because we are
>> now
>>>> 20 and not one year after the Newton's demise, because I find "the day
>> the
>>>> Newton died" easier to sing than "the day that Newton died", because
>> Newtons
>>>> will NEVER die, and because I wanted to format the text so that the
>> lines
>>>> will better match the text in the Karaoke track, making it easier to
>> stay on
>>>> beat.
>>>> I will probably provide a guitar track within the next couple of days,
>> so
>>>> maybe in the final product we won't need the Karaoke track at all and
>> thus
>>>> get around potential copyright problems. The good news is that if you
>> base
>>>> your recording on this karaoke track, it will still be usable with my
>> guitar
>>>> track, since that'll be based on the Karaoke track, too. Maybe I will
>> also
>>>> provide a voice track. That'll depend on whether I'll have a day next
>> week
>>>> when I am alone in the house for a couple of hours, and whether at that
>> time
>>>> I'll have enough Single Malt Whisky nearby to help myself to some liquid
>>>> Dutch courage.
>>>> Whoever feels inclined to participate singing or playing an instrument:
>> It
>>>> would be cool if you could do a recording WITHOUT the Karaoke track
>> (that'll
>>>> make mixing things together much easier) and send it off-list to Noah
>> and
>>>> me. Of course, if you know someone who could improve this soon-to-be
>> Newton
>>>> song of the century even more: Why not invite him to join, even if he
>> or she
>>>> is not a list member! I am sure his or her name will appear in Noah's
>> film,
>>>> which will practically guarantee lifelong fame.
>>>> Also, if anybody out there has the skill and the software for mixing
>> musical
>>>> tracks, please drop me a line. I think I could do it using Audacity on
>> a PC,
>>>> but I have never done stuff like that before. Noah could probably do it
>>>> using GarageBand, but my impression is that he isn't an audio mixing
>> expert,
>>>> either.
>>>> So: Don't be shy! Most people sing better than they are aware of. And I
>>>> promise that in the unlikely case that your recording sucks, it will
>> not be
>>>> used. Just make sure not to wait too long. If I remember correctly, the
>> film
>>>> is supposed to be released at the end of February.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Frank
>>>> Ah, almost forgot: Here's the lyrics.
>>>> A long, long time ago,
>>>> I can still remember
>>>> how Apple used to make me smile.
>>>> And I knew
>>>> if I gave them a chance,
>>>> that they would make my Newton dance,
>>>> improve, enhance its elegance and style.
>>>> But February made me shiver
>>>> with every press release delivered.
>>>> Newton Inc. was gutted;
>>>> Newsgroups all were flooded.
>>>> I can't remember if I cried
>>>> when I saw the power Steve Jobs plied.
>>>> And something touched me deep inside
>>>> the day the Newton died.
>>>> So,
>>>> Bye, bye, Newton Inc., Newton PIE.
>>>> Drove down to Cupertino but the brain trust was dry.
>>>> Yet loyal users look you straight in the eye.
>>>> Saying "I'll use it 'till the day that I die",
>>>> "I'll use it 'till the day that I die".
>>>> Read Defying Gravity,
>>>> Newtons are not Macs and not PCs.
>>>> Do gut feelings tell you so?
>>>> Now do you ignore opinion polls?
>>>> Is your Newt wired to your soul?
>>>> And can you take Rosetta being real slow?
>>>> Well I saw the smile on your lips
>>>> when up came a cool solar eclipse.
>>>> Your words spoke for us all,
>>>> "Man, I'm havin' quite a ball!"
>>>> I was disorganized, boy did that suck!
>>>> Then my MessagePad got me unstuck
>>>> But I knew I was out of luck
>>>> The day the Newton died.
>>>> I started singin',
>>>> Chorus
>>>> Now for twenty years we've been on our own
>>>> And support from Apple is long gone,
>>>> But that's not how it used to be.
>>>> When Steve Jobs sang for Ellen and Gil
>>>> the whole Mac world seemed to stand still
>>>> and Newton Inc. was humming happily.
>>>> When losses hurt Amelio,
>>>> Jobs grabbed the title "CEO".
>>>> The board room was replaced;
>>>> Then Gil left in disgrace.
>>>> And while Steve did Newton Inc. un-spin,
>>>> He did his P.R. with a grin,
>>>> And we felt the RDF kick in
>>>> The day the Newton died.
>>>> We were singing,
>>>> Chorus
>>>> The Newton group was relaxing.
>>>> Development had been quite taxing;
>>>> The 2100 ready to go.
>>>> With Newton Inc.'s obvious fall,
>>>> they saw the writing on the wall,
>>>> that Steve Jobs at any time could blow.
>>>> When the CEO started talking trash,
>>>> then engineers left in a flash.
>>>> We all could smell a rat,
>>>> But the RDF quelled that.
>>>> And as Apple offered more RAM room
>>>> We saw an awful future loom
>>>> Do you recall the sense of doom,
>>>> The day that Newton died?
>>>> We started singing,
>>>> Chorus
>>>> None of us felt quite the same
>>>> when the day we dreaded finally came.
>>>> We wished Newton to again rise.
>>>> So, come on Apple, come on Steve,
>>>> grant Newton technology a reprieve.
>>>> But we just saw its slow demise.
>>>> And as I watched Steve take the stage
>>>> my hands were clenched in fists of rage.
>>>> Critics they all applauded;
>>>> We felt we were defrauded.
>>>> And as Newton burned into the night--
>>>> Such pain in the MessagePad's sad plight-
>>>> I saw Steve Jobs laughing with delight
>>>> The day the Newton died.
>>>> He was singing,
>>>> Chorus
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