[NTLK] (no subject)

Wed Apr 10 22:16:37 EDT 2019

As a Newton fan since “day 2” I am still amazed how good the little green guy did. I boot up it every now and then, sometimes to show people the ancestor of their iPhone.

That said, there’s a whole lot of great devices with color screens and pressure-sensitive styli and cellular data connections that won’t drain the battery. 

Also a couple recent comments are flat out wrong. 

Want to mix text and scribbles in color and email a PDF of it? Try Notability (one of dozens) for iOS. Yes the native “notes” app won’t let you “mix” these, but you can have text, a small spreadsheet on the same note, and the note will sync among devices.

And Notability has the Newtonesque feature that if you draw a shape carefully, it straightens it out! 

The sharing of data on NewtOS was only possible if the “soup” storing it allowed access, and the package was set up to read said soup, it didn’t just happen from package to package to package. 

You can’t have an OS with that feature and expect a device to be used in the medical profession and be HIPPA compliant.

Also, that sort of feature is useless today in the MS Outlook-driven world where you invite attendees to a meeting instead, so they get an email.

But in this case, before the meeting, since the iPhone has GPS and gets traffic alerts behind the scenes it will tell you when to leave to get there in time.

Mark Rollins 

Sent from my iPhone 

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>   1. (no subject) (Mark Kuberski)
>   2. Re: (no subject) (DB)
>   3. Love Notes to Newton (Noah Leon)
>   4. Re: Love Notes to Newton (Martin Ossio)
>   5. Re: Love Notes to Newton (Sylvain Pilet)
>   6. Re: Love Notes to Newton (Florian Voigt)
>   7. Jump to the latest notes (Mark Kuberski)
>   8. Re: Jump to the latest notes (Sylvain Pilet)
>   9. Re: NetTime for 711000 (Sylvain Pilet)
>  10. Re: Love Notes to Newton (Martin Ossio)
>  11. Re: Love Notes to Newton (Noah Leon)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:38:55 -0600
> From: Mark Kuberski <berskyboy at gmail.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] (no subject)
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> Hi Grant, Martin,
> 
> RIGHT ON!  You hit the nail on the head,
> 
> "One nice thing that one can do with a Newton, is making complex documents,
> that mix text and drawings in the same page"
> 
> This something that the iPad cannot do yet.  Hence the reason, I bought
> another Newton from this group and am using it daily for my work notes.
> Also LINKING is absolutely incredible, nothing like that exists on our
> current tech products.
> 
> Love live the Newton!
> 
> Mark
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 21:18:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com>
> To: "newtontalk at newtontalk.net" <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>,    Grant
>        Hutchinson <newtontalkmessages at gmail.com>,      NewtonTalk List
>        <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Printing to PDF?
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> 
> Hey Grant!
> Thanks for your tip!
> I have checked and it needs to send to send text via email, but
> unfortunately I cannot send emails yet from my Newton.
> I am trying Simple Mail with a Marisa provided email account, but it cannot
> send emails yet.
> One nice thing that one can do with a Newton, is making complex documents,
> that mix text and drawings in the same page. And other very interesting
> reports.
> It would be great to make PDFs out of them!
> Its complex print layouts really sets aside the Newton from other current
> mobile offerings! It way more futuristic and PC / Mac like!
> You can see a preview of the printing with the preview button before
> printing.
> It really great!
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 14:46:51 -0400
> From: DB <DB at dbdigitalweb.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] (no subject)
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> Sadly, newer devices will never have that linking functionality due to the security issues it opens up.  The Newton was long before all the "bad actors" that we have nowadays in the computing world.  The Newton would share data between all packages/apps.  Which gave it such power.  You could link two items from two totally different packages and it worked.  Or if you asked it to schedule a meeting at a certain time (using your preferred PIM) with a certain person it would pull all the data and link it in the reminder.
> 
> Now though, everyone uses a different data storage method and most programs can't talk with one another directly without your express consent.  Even then it is usually limited, if they can at all again because of the different storage methods.  There is "sharing" but it is much more limited with regard to what the Newton could do, and it isn't the kind of links we are talking about either.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> 
>> On 4/10/2019 12:38 PM, Mark Kuberski wrote:
>> Hi Grant, Martin,
>> 
>> RIGHT ON!  You hit the nail on the head,
>> 
>> "One nice thing that one can do with a Newton, is making complex documents,
>> that mix text and drawings in the same page"
>> 
>> This something that the iPad cannot do yet.  Hence the reason, I bought
>> another Newton from this group and am using it daily for my work notes.
>> Also LINKING is absolutely incredible, nothing like that exists on our
>> current tech products.
>> 
>> Love live the Newton!
>> 
>> Mark
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 14:53:38 -0400
> From: Noah Leon <noah at moosefuel.media>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
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> Thanks Sylvain for the kind thoughts.
> 
> If anyone knows anyone in California who would like to go to the screening,
> there are still tickets left!
> https://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/#love-notes-newton-screening
> 
> I've been so busy with work I haven't promoted it as much as I should have,
> so any help if you know anyone on the original Newton team or people who
> would enjoy it, please let them know!
> 
> noah
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:27:51 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
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> 
> Hi Noah!
> Has Steve Wozniak been invited? He tends to like all good futuristic things :)
> If not, please let me know to send him a link.
> Thanks!
> Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://kingcode.io/
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 1:54:56 PM GMT-5, Noah Leon <noah at moosefuel.media> wrote:  
> 
> Thanks Sylvain for the kind thoughts.
> 
> If anyone knows anyone in California who would like to go to the screening,
> there are still tickets left!
> https://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/#love-notes-newton-screening
> 
> I've been so busy with work I haven't promoted it as much as I should have,
> so any help if you know anyone on the original Newton team or people who
> would enjoy it, please let them know!
> 
> noah
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> http://newtontalk.net/
> http://twitter.com/newtontalk
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:34:43 +0200
> From: Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net>
> To: Newton Liste Newton Talk US <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
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> Wow, it would be great if Steve Wozniak came to see your movie Naoh! You could even do an interview and add it to the documentary!
> 
> Thank you Martin, if you can convince Steve, it would be an honor for Noah I think! :-)
> 
> 
> Sylvain Pilet
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>> Le 10 avr. 2019 ? 22:27, Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> Hi Noah!
>> Has Steve Wozniak been invited? He tends to like all good futuristic things :)
>> If not, please let me know to send him a link.
>> Thanks!
>> Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://kingcode.io/
>> 
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 1:54:56 PM GMT-5, Noah Leon <noah at moosefuel.media> wrote:  
>> 
>> Thanks Sylvain for the kind thoughts.
>> 
>> If anyone knows anyone in California who would like to go to the screening,
>> there are still tickets left!
>> https://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/#love-notes-newton-screening
>> 
>> I've been so busy with work I haven't promoted it as much as I should have,
>> so any help if you know anyone on the original Newton team or people who
>> would enjoy it, please let them know!
>> 
>> noah
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://newtontalk.net/
>> http://twitter.com/newtontalk
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> http://newtontalk.net/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:41:05 +0200
> From: Florian Voigt <florian.voigt at me.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
> Message-ID: <D95F8CC7-F48D-451D-B573-FEC5E7EB4015 at me.com>
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> Speaking of ?adding to the documentary?... Noah, is there a chance of us ever getting to see an extended cut? Ever since you mentioned that you had way more material I hope so...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Florian
> 
>> Am 10.04.2019 um 22:34 schrieb Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net>:
>> 
>> Wow, it would be great if Steve Wozniak came to see your movie Naoh! You could even do an interview and add it to the documentary!
>> 
>> Thank you Martin, if you can convince Steve, it would be an honor for Noah I think! :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Sylvain Pilet
>> 
>> <http://message-pad.net <http://message-pad.net/>>
>> <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680/>> [NPDS Tracker]
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>>> Le 10 avr. 2019 ? 22:27, Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com> a ?crit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Noah!
>>> Has Steve Wozniak been invited? He tends to like all good futuristic things :)
>>> If not, please let me know to send him a link.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://kingcode.io/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 1:54:56 PM GMT-5, Noah Leon <noah at moosefuel.media> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sylvain for the kind thoughts.
>>> 
>>> If anyone knows anyone in California who would like to go to the screening,
>>> there are still tickets left!
>>> https://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/#love-notes-newton-screening
>>> 
>>> I've been so busy with work I haven't promoted it as much as I should have,
>>> so any help if you know anyone on the original Newton team or people who
>>> would enjoy it, please let them know!
>>> 
>>> noah
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://newtontalk.net/
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>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 14:41:21 -0600
> From: Mark Kuberski <berskyboy at gmail.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] Jump to the latest notes
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> I have around 400+ notes now, because I've been using my Newton again daily
> for about 8 months.  Does anyone know how to JUMP to the end of the notes,
> like the latest notes, AFTER you have found an old note and made
> reference.  It's a bit painful to have to scroll through all my notes to
> get there.
> 
> thanks,
> Mark
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:34:05 +0200
> From: Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net>
> To: Newton Liste Newton Talk US <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Jump to the latest notes
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> Mark,
> Use the Find function of the Newton !
> Open NotePad then now simply search  (the magnifying glass icon) in  NotePad for notes dating after a date 
> [] Look for : dates after (select your date search?)
> Et voil? !
> 
> 
> see sample: http://message-pad.net/Medias-publiques/FindNotesByDate.png
> 
> 
> Sylvain Pilet
> 
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>> Le 10 avr. 2019 ? 22:41, Mark Kuberski <berskyboy at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> I have around 400+ notes now, because I've been using my Newton again daily
>> for about 8 months.  Does anyone know how to JUMP to the end of the notes,
>> like the latest notes, AFTER you have found an old note and made
>> reference.  It's a bit painful to have to scroll through all my notes to
>> get there.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Mark
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> http://newtontalk.net/
>> http://twitter.com/newtontalk
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:37:07 +0200
> From: Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net>
> To: Newton Liste Newton Talk US <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] NetTime for 711000
> Message-ID: <1AD82791-F018-467F-9ADB-0F9C01369671 at pilet.net>
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> 
> You're welcome, Forrest,
> It is a service to all, including my! ;-)
> 
> Maybe Adam still has the sources of his nBlog/nHTML/XML-RPC pack? ?
> But I have a doubt, that it is easy to fix the problem of the current incompatibility of nBlog with Blogger, because Google now uses the OAuth 2.0 protocol which is based on an https connection... And unfortunately https is not supported by NewtonOS 2.x. 
> It would have been in version 3.x of NewtonOS, but that's another story! :-)
> 
> Maybe Adam could tell us more if he reads this message. 
> On his site, you can still download his software and even the sources, but unfortunately there is nothing on nBlog, XML-RPC and version 2 of nHTML... (https://tow.com/projects/newton/)
> 
> Sylvain Pilet
> 
> http://message-pad.net <http://message-pad.net/>
> http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680/> [NPDS Tracker]
> 
>> Le 10 avr. 2019 ? 11:48, Forrest <newton_phoenix at mindspring.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> God Bless you, Sylvain!
>> 
>> I have looked at the code before, but I frankly didn?t know enough to do anything with it. Thank you SO MUCH for updating it so we can again use it with our Newtons.
>> 
>> Now, if we could just persuade Adam Tow to update nBlog so we could use IT again (something else I tried to examine).
>> 
>> Mahalo,
>> Forrest
>> 
>> Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm going back to this subject from February 2017! Two years already....
>>> To inform you that I have made a small update of NetTime. You will again find the Automatic Synchronization option (which had disappeared) allowing your Newton to synchronize its clock with that of the TP servers, as soon as an Internet connection is opened. This option has also become deactivatable again. 
>>> I also took the opportunity to make a localized version in French (you might as well enjoy yourself!) 
>>> You can find these new versions and sources (NTK Mac) of NetTime on the page of a small article I made for the occasion, at this address:
>>> <http://message-pad.net/nettime-and-daylight-saving-rfc-868/>
>>> 
>>> And a short video to quickly explain the joint use of Daylight Saving and NetTime:
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfSWV1xXqDc>
>>> 
>>> For memory, Jake Bordens, had modified the code in 2017 to make NetTime compatible with Newtons with the Y2010 patch.
>>> 
>>> For those who do not wish to read the article, here is the direct link to the new version of the NetTime.pkg:
>>> <http://message-pad.net/Download/Softwares-Newton/Tools/Time/NetTime.pkg>
>>> (As usual, excuse me in advance for my poor English)
>>> 
>>> Sylvain Pilet
>>> <http://message-pad.net <http://message-pad.net/>>
>>> <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680/>> [NPDS Tracker]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 6 f?vr. 2017 ? 01:56, Sylvain Pilet <pilets at mac.com> a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>> @Jake,
>>>> Ok I see better now.
>>>> So you just want to add an auto-sync checkbox that disables (if unchecked) the automatic sync that is already in the code?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sylvain Pilet
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 6 f?vr. 2017 ? 01:26, Jake Bordens <jake at allaboutjake.com> a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>>>> Going back to the original subject of your post.
>>>>>> You wish to add an "Auto-Sync" button like on the ?98 version of NetTime (of which one no longer knows
>>>>>> where it comes from, if I understood correctly).
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just have a question/suggestion, this Auto-Sync would be made to it frequency? 
>>>>>> It might be good to put in addition a picker with several choices (1H, 6H, 12H, 24H, 1D, 1W, 1M). What do
>>>>>> you think ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Auto-sync is the default behavior of the app. It syncs automatically whenever a network connection is started.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I added the ?sync now button? which allows you to force a sync for the first time or on demand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The checkbox lets you disable the auto sync behavior, making it completely manual.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jake
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 17:05:49 -0500
> From: Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
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> Dear Sylvain,
> 
> I have written to Woz, suggesting him to go, and I truly wish he will.
> 
> To be totally honest, actually I met him there, in the Computer History Museum, in a Twitter?s CEO Square talk.
> (https://tinyurl.com/wozphoto1 <https://tinyurl.com/wozphoto1> you can see in the photo by looking beneath his name, we was actually there).
> 
> He gave me there his Titanium card (got the easy to read version of it! (https://tinyurl.com/wozphoto2 <https://tinyurl.com/wozphoto2>), as a support to my recreation attempt of HyperCard for today standards.
> 
> Since my project would make apps for iOS, Android and Web, I now that have relaunched my Newton heart, it will now have to include Newton friendly webs.
> 
> Woz is a fellow of the Museum, so I really hope he will there for that reason also.
> 
> I will be there last days of September for a tech meeting in Berkley, and will miss the screening next Friday.
> 
> All the luck in helping re-starting the Newton Love for new people!
> 
> Martin :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Sylvain Pilet <sylvain at pilet.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, it would be great if Steve Wozniak came to see your movie Naoh! You could even do an interview and add it to the documentary!
>> 
>> Thank you Martin, if you can convince Steve, it would be an honor for Noah I think! :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Sylvain Pilet
>> 
>> <http://message-pad.net <http://message-pad.net/>>
>> <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680 <http://messagepad.no-ip.org:3680/>> [NPDS Tracker]
>> 
>>> Le 10 avr. 2019 ? 22:27, Martin Ossio <martinossio at yahoo.com> a ?crit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Noah!
>>> Has Steve Wozniak been invited? He tends to like all good futuristic things :)
>>> If not, please let me know to send him a link.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://kingcode.io/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 1:54:56 PM GMT-5, Noah Leon <noah at moosefuel.media> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sylvain for the kind thoughts.
>>> 
>>> If anyone knows anyone in California who would like to go to the screening,
>>> there are still tickets left!
>>> https://www.computerhistory.org/events/upcoming/#love-notes-newton-screening
>>> 
>>> I've been so busy with work I haven't promoted it as much as I should have,
>>> so any help if you know anyone on the original Newton team or people who
>>> would enjoy it, please let them know!
>>> 
>>> noah
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> http://newtontalk.net/
>>> http://twitter.com/newtontalk
>>> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 21:18:22 -0400
> From: Noah Leon <moosefuel at gmail.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Love Notes to Newton
> Message-ID: <1557EE48-565D-422A-BA35-1D24E9D2B1FA at gmail.com>
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>> I have written to Woz,
> 
> Thanks Martin, that could be really fun. 
> 
> I?ve met Woz very briefly once before, he gave a talk at my old University. I brought my Apple II and he signed it for me. He asked if he could keep the sharpie I had brought for the occasion so he could sign some more stuff. Such a great guy.
> 
> As to the question about an extended cut, I don?t have time at the moment and am behind schedule in all areas of life, but the entire raw footage of the film may or may not have made it to an anonymous destination, someone on the list, so who knows what might leak out to members of Newtontalk in the future. And if I have time, I will put something together. Note also that there are a few ?extras? which appear on the Vimeo page if you have purchased the film. Deleted clips, mostly.
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