[NTLK] Do you have a spare ? working ? Newton to donate? :) (to me! lol)
Umberto Cerrato
umbertocerrato at outlook.it
Wed Jun 17 12:08:30 EDT 2020
Hi,
Italy, EU :)
-U
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> 1. Do you have a spare ? working ? Newton to donate? :) (to me!
> lol) (Umberto Cerrato)
> 2. Re: Do you have a spare ? working ? Newton to donate? :) (to
> me! lol) (Ermin Mistica)
> 3. Re: Removed adhesive screen protection, what a difference (Dan)
> 4. Re: Removed adhesive screen protection, what a difference
> (Tim Johnson)
> 5. AA batteries (Dennis Swaney)
> 6. Re: Removed adhesive screen protection, what a difference (Dan)
> 7. Re: [ANN] mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS (Eckhart Koeppen)
> 8. Re: [ANN] mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS (Ronnie Simon)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 17:22:33 +0000
> From: Umberto Cerrato <umbertocerrato at outlook.it>
> To: "newtontalk at newtontalk.net" <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: [NTLK] Do you have a spare ? working ? Newton to donate? :)
> (to me! lol)
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> Hi,
>
> I?m searching for a Newton. Just for fun. I would like it to be functioning but I mean, something is better than nothing.
> I like the first Newton the most :)
>
> Best,
> U
>
> PS:
> For cheap is fine too :P :)
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:54:28 -0700
> From: Ermin Mistica <erminmistica at gmail.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Do you have a spare ? working ? Newton to donate?
> :) (to me! lol)
> Message-ID: <CE588068-AD78-4CAC-9981-7E0A50812B8B at gmail.com>
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> Umberto,
>
> Where are you located?
>
> ?????
> Ermin F Mistica
> 773-413-0316 Phone
>
> (viPXSM)
>
>> On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Umberto Cerrato <umbertocerrato at outlook.it> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi,
>>
>> I?m searching for a Newton. Just for fun. I would like it to be functioning but I mean, something is better than nothing.
>> I like the first Newton the most :)
>>
>> Best,
>> U
>>
>> PS:
>> For cheap is fine too :P :)
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:23:28 -0400
> From: Dan <dan at dbdigitalweb.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Removed adhesive screen protection, what a
> difference
> Message-ID: <5EE92A40.9030403 at dbdigitalweb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> I would suggest Nusheilds. They are not adhesive and I didn't see any difference between with and without it being installed. Perhaps a little less contrast but still worth using the screen protector.
>
> The adhesive based ones where WriteWrite's? They had a interesting feel, but in the end nothing compared to Nusheilds or the plain screen.
>
> As for a pen, I agree try a new one. Especially if that one has any sort of wear on the tip, that alone can scratch the screen. PDAPanache is my fav, although the MP2x00 pens are hard to find these days. But they do have many "plain" pens really cheap and work well.
>
> I was just looking at their site and the M stylus looks like it even might fit the MP2x00 silo but don't quote me on that. I do have a bunch of their "stick" ones as well. I don't know if they will still replace the tips but they used to for their better pens.
>
> Doesn't look like they have much of a selection at the moment. I hope they are not going out of business.
>
> -Dan
>
> On 6/16/2020 10:23 AM, timjohnson wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> About a week ago I took the suggestion of a veteran member of this list,
>> and removed the adhesive screen protection from a 2100 I'd been given in
>> ~2016. Wow, what a difference.
>>
>> This unit had left me doubting my own memories regarding how well the
>> pen input worked on my old, misplaced 2000/2100. This unit just didn't
>> live up. But after I peeled off that glorified Scotch? tape and rubbed
>> the screen with a few ounces of Goo Gone?, it was like the whole green
>> world had re-opened to me.
>>
>> In a way, I'm glad it had the screen protection installed when it was
>> given to me. It means the screen is nearly mint for me to now scratch
>> up on my own use. So, thanks to the person who originally applied it,
>> and thanks also to the veteran member of this list who supplied me with
>> the confidence to remove it. I'm back to setting up To-Do items,
>> checking them off, and entering transactions into PocketMoney, just like
>> it was 199x/20xx all over again.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:08:43 -0700
> From: Tim Johnson <tim at aaack.org>
> To: NewtonTalk Mailing List <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Removed adhesive screen protection, what a
> difference
> Message-ID: <0BBBC653-F163-4A56-8960-9A684B056C63 at aaack.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks Dan and Nic.
>
> I do believe the stock MP2x00 stylus I used on my former unit had a defect or wear on the tip and it did cause scratches. This current one seems OK so far.
>
> In the past I also used some styluses that had rather rubberized tips ? any thoughts on those, compared to the Newton's quite solid tip? I was afraid that I might have actually rubbed away something from the screen by using the rubberized stylus.
>
> Are the NuShields the ones that have some texture to them? Yes, those are nice. Worlds better than the substance I removed from this unit.
>
> I will check out the links provided.
>
> Tim
>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Dan <dan at dbdigitalweb.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest Nusheilds. They are not adhesive and I didn't see any difference between with and without it being installed. Perhaps a little less contrast but still worth using the screen protector.
>>
>> The adhesive based ones where WriteWrite's? They had a interesting feel, but in the end nothing compared to Nusheilds or the plain screen.
>>
>> As for a pen, I agree try a new one. Especially if that one has any sort of wear on the tip, that alone can scratch the screen. PDAPanache is my fav, although the MP2x00 pens are hard to find these days. But they do have many "plain" pens really cheap and work well.
>>
>> I was just looking at their site and the M stylus looks like it even might fit the MP2x00 silo but don't quote me on that. I do have a bunch of their "stick" ones as well. I don't know if they will still replace the tips but they used to for their better pens.
>>
>> Doesn't look like they have much of a selection at the moment. I hope they are not going out of business.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On 6/16/2020 10:23 AM, timjohnson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> About a week ago I took the suggestion of a veteran member of this list, and removed the adhesive screen protection from a 2100 I'd been given in ~2016. Wow, what a difference.
>>> This unit had left me doubting my own memories regarding how well the pen input worked on my old, misplaced 2000/2100. This unit just didn't live up. But after I peeled off that glorified Scotch? tape and rubbed the screen with a few ounces of Goo Gone?, it was like the whole green world had re-opened to me.
>>> In a way, I'm glad it had the screen protection installed when it was given to me. It means the screen is nearly mint for me to now scratch up on my own use. So, thanks to the person who originally applied it, and thanks also to the veteran member of this list who supplied me with the confidence to remove it. I'm back to setting up To-Do items, checking them off, and entering transactions into PocketMoney, just like it was 199x/20xx all over again.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 21:02:58 -0700
> From: Dennis Swaney <romad at nvwisp.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] AA batteries
> Message-ID:
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> Has anyone used Lithium AA batteries in their MP 2100? If so, how do they
> compare to DuraCell or Energizer alkaline AA? Or would it be better to use
> Eneloop Ni-MH rechargeables in the AA tray?
>
> Sincerely,
> Dennis B. Swaney
>
> "Cogito Ergo Mac"
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:58:22 -0400
> From: Dan <dan at dbdigitalweb.com>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Removed adhesive screen protection, what a
> difference
> Message-ID: <5EE9B0FE.6090503 at dbdigitalweb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> A very little bit of texture, they are more like a hard clear plastic that protects your screen and LASTS unlike most others. https://www.nushield.com/order/Apple+Newton++/PDA I can't recommend them high enough. Their protectors are also great for any screen you want to protect and have them for almost everything it looks like. I use the antiglare version which has a slight matte texture/feel. They also can darken in bright hot sunlight just a heads up. At one point I was outside with my Newt and thought it was my screen going dark then I realized it was the protector and no damage done as it returns once you are out of the sun.
>
> The rubberized tips might wear more on the bare screen, but I wouldn't worry about it if you have a Nushield in place. The feel might be a bit off with more 'drag' than a plastic tip.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> On 6/16/2020 10:08 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:
>> Thanks Dan and Nic.
>>
>> I do believe the stock MP2x00 stylus I used on my former unit had a defect or wear on the tip and it did cause scratches. This current one seems OK so far.
>>
>> In the past I also used some styluses that had rather rubberized tips ? any thoughts on those, compared to the Newton's quite solid tip? I was afraid that I might have actually rubbed away something from the screen by using the rubberized stylus.
>>
>> Are the NuShields the ones that have some texture to them? Yes, those are nice. Worlds better than the substance I removed from this unit.
>>
>> I will check out the links provided.
>>
>> Tim
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:35:14 +0300
> From: Eckhart Koeppen <eck at 40hz.org>
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Cc: Matthias Melcher <m.melcher at robowerk.de>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ANN] mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS
> Message-ID: <bdf54fc5-23f0-b150-5e31-ff1054c965ab at 40hz.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> This is amazing :)! The MP2100's are actually still moderately capable
> compared to the MCUs which mbed is targeting, and I guess having GCC
> enabled now would also allow some other software from the embedded world
> to be ported more easily.
>
> Eckhart
>
> On 6/14/20 12:40 PM, Paul Guyot wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am pleased to announce a port of mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS.
>> This library allows SSL connections and comes with a quick and dirty patch that allows IMAPS connections with Mail V.
>>
>> It was developed on Einstein and tested on a MP2100. The code was compiled for armv3 and could work on earlier devices. Please note that it requires quite a lot of RAM and I am not sure it would work as is on an eMate 300 or a MP2000.
>> Theoretically, it should work with NIE 1.1 on a MP130, but lacking any such device I didn't test it.
>>
>> The binaries are available on GitHub:
>> https://github.com/pguyot/mbedtls-NewtonOS/releases
>>
>> Documentation, especially for developers, is here:
>> https://github.com/pguyot/mbedtls-NewtonOS/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> The source code is available as well, including source code of a test application that demonstrates usage with HTTPS and IMAP with STARTTLS.
>>
>> For the history of this port which originates from Pawel and Noah's Worldwide Online Newton Conference, I have just published a LinkedIn pulse article:
>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/diving-retro-computing-paul-guyot/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:37:46 +0200
> From: Ronnie Simon <ronnie_simon at me.com>
> To: Steven Frank via NewtonTalk <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ANN] mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS
> Message-ID: <D208D8F2-B45C-4985-A47A-875C5567F73D at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> As we say in english - You wait a long time for one bus and then 3 buses arrive at the same time :-)
>
> Ronnie
>
>> On 17 Jun 2020, at 15:35, Eckhart Koeppen <eck at 40hz.org> wrote:
>>
>> This is amazing :)! The MP2100's are actually still moderately capable compared to the MCUs which mbed is targeting, and I guess having GCC enabled now would also allow some other software from the embedded world to be ported more easily.
>>
>> Eckhart
>>
>> On 6/14/20 12:40 PM, Paul Guyot wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am pleased to announce a port of mbedTLS 2.16.6 for NewtonOS.
>>> This library allows SSL connections and comes with a quick and dirty patch that allows IMAPS connections with Mail V.
>>>
>>> It was developed on Einstein and tested on a MP2100. The code was compiled for armv3 and could work on earlier devices. Please note that it requires quite a lot of RAM and I am not sure it would work as is on an eMate 300 or a MP2000.
>>> Theoretically, it should work with NIE 1.1 on a MP130, but lacking any such device I didn't test it.
>>>
>>> The binaries are available on GitHub:
>>> https://github.com/pguyot/mbedtls-NewtonOS/releases
>>>
>>> Documentation, especially for developers, is here:
>>> https://github.com/pguyot/mbedtls-NewtonOS/blob/master/README.md
>>>
>>> The source code is available as well, including source code of a test application that demonstrates usage with HTTPS and IMAP with STARTTLS.
>>>
>>> For the history of this port which originates from Pawel and Noah's Worldwide Online Newton Conference, I have just published a LinkedIn pulse article:
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/diving-retro-computing-paul-guyot/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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