Re: NTLK Intel 6 meg card again

From: Laurent Daudelin (laurent_daudelin@fanniemae.com)
Date: Tue Nov 23 1999 - 13:53:55 EST


Brian McEwen wrote:

> I've received a couple replies already saying that the MP120/2.0 can't
> work with 5/5 card; the relevant blurb from the FAQ is:
>
> ---
> b) What sizes and models are suitable for my Newton?
>
> 5v/12v cards can be used on all models except eMate 300. 5v/5v cards can
> be used on eMate, MP2k and MP130. SRAM cards can be used on all Newtons.
> SRAM cards only work if they are 4 MB or
> smaller. You need Newton OS 2.x to use flash cards bigger than 4 MB. The
> maximum is 32 MB.
> Some MP120s with NOS 2.0 could also use 5v/5v cards. But this is not sure
> at all.
> ----
>
> Can someone shed some light about this- is there a set of model numbers or
> similar to help indicate which MP120's might be capable of 5/5.
>
> I did eventually find the utils to access the Intel series 100 from a
> Win95 machine- they can be found at
> http://amber.intel.com/scripts-toolcat/arch.asp?architecture=7
> and indicate "utility" for the software type.
>
> At this point, I guess I'll check the card on an IBM using the diagnostics
> and make sure it is healthy, try it once more on the MP120, then decide
> that it Really Won't Work :).

I think I've read somewhere that 2.0 devices could read from 5v/5v card, but
not write to them. Have you been able to read from the card, or is your MP120
reporting that it doesn't recognize the card upon insertion?

I might add that after looking at the specification for the new Pretec 16MB
5v/5v card I've just got <http://www.pretec.com/index2/product/SSD/fad.htm>,
I've read this portion of relevant info:

"
System Compatibility:

                           Apple Newton Message Pad 120 with OS 2.0 and above

                           Apple Newton Message Pad 130

                           Apple Newton Message Pad 2000

                           IBM compatible Notebook PCs, Laptops, Palmtops, or
Hand-held devices, etc.
"

and a little bit down:

"
Operating Voltage:

                           Read/Write/erase: 5V ± 5%
"

So, it looks from the Pretec site that, at least, their 5v/5v cards are
compatible with MP120 running NOS 2.0. Are you sure your MP120 is running NOS
2.0? If so, I'm kinda lost. I would have thought that any PCMCIA Type II
compliant cards would all behave the same, so if one manufacturer states its
5v/5v card works with a MP120/NOS 2.0, then all other compliant cards would
work, but maybe I'm wrong, after all...

I guess the real question would be: is there anyone on the list that is
successfully using a 5v/5v with a MP120 running NOS 2.0???

-Laurent.
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