Re: [NTLK] More on law

From: Thomas Cherry (jceaser_at_mac.com)
Date: Sat Sep 08 2001 - 02:42:38 EDT


But at what point does property become all of ours. Are you saying that
Bach and Sir Isac Newton's notes should be owned by someone? Should the US
government change for copies made of the Constitution. Should Zerox be the
only company that makes copiers? No, at some point, private information
must become community property. If you can't make use if it in 75 years or
when ever it is the copy right expires, to bad. You had your chance and you
and your family have no right to with hold human knowledge from the rest of
the world. We are suppose to be working together to improve all of our
lives. At some point, information must become comunity property.

Yes, property is given back to the comunity after an amount of time, it's
called death. No one ownes anything, they only borow it for a very very
short time. And you can clame squating rights in many places.

I find nothing wrong with using software or giving it away if the owner does
not claim it or they can not be found. The IRS does it all the time. You
dissapear, they wait a few years, then sell all your stuff to pay your
taxes. You find a car an the road you try to find the owner, if no one
claimes it then it's yours. Software is a comodity like anything else.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Templarsog1_at_aol.com>
To: <newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NTLK] More on law

>
>
> In a message dated 9/7/01 2:09:51 PM, engleerica_at_yahoo.com writes:
>
> << In other words what Madison or Jefferson think matters
> nil. What does matter is what the congress in 1978
> thought. And what they thought was "Lifetime of author
> plus X years" which was once 25, then 50 and now a
> whopping 75. >>
>
> It should actually be in perpetuity. Seventy five years is not long
> enough.
>
> If you use your time, energy and intellect to create something it is
> yours. It should be of no import whether or not you 'use' or 'do
something'
> with it. It is yours and nobody should be able to use it without your
> expressed permission and certainly not without compensation.
>
> Someone on the list said you have to make a reasonable effort to
contact
> the individual or entity and if they do not cntact you back then you
probably
> can go ahead. I disagree, the entity or individual may not want to
contact
> you and is under no obligation to do so. If you do not have permission you
> don't use whatever it is you want to use.
>
> From this stems the notion of private property and all those rights
> associated with that concept.
>
> If you build a house, boat, or anything else and you choose not to
'use
> it', does that mean that in 5,10,15,20 years someone should be able to
come
> along and say,"well, you are not using this so I will". I don't think so,
>
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