Thank you for the very informational e-mail. We are familiar (most) with
basic internet setting we are curious about other options. AKA wireless
using a 900Mhz datalink transmission on localtalk. The wavelan driver will
actually work for me (since I already have a base station) but for many this
solution (if I can get all the pieces together) will be under $50.00 allows
our newton's to access the internet wireless with about 50-100 feet range
(good for most used around the house and outside in the yard. Typically
able to be on the net where ever a typical 900Mhz phone is clear sounding.
BTW to followup on another question about needing a modem between the 900Mhz
datalink and the newton.... not the case... Phonenet connectors like these
I had for sale: http://www.2khappyware.com/done_pics/PDRM0035.jpg have a
RJ-11 (standard phone jack) connection. and always on 900 mhz data link
would grab any data and send it to the other end. These have worked many
times transfering files from newton to my mac and mac to my newton. The
only change is that we are replacing the inside phone cord with a 900Mhz
wireless data link.
-----Original Message-----
From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
[mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of J¿rgen Riishede
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:09 PM
To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton 2100: Internet over localtalk to mac?
Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton 2100: Internet over localtalk to mac?
Sent: 24/9/01 22:18
To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
To whom it may concern!
I see that there is many good proposals about how to get access to =
Internet. But there could bee some confusions about the topic. I am =
no expert on the subject so forgive me if somebody catch me in giving =
bad advice! But any way - maybee an example could help some off you =
out there to get your newton on a network.
My own IntraNet:
My Newton MP 2100 has a ethernet card. In the prefs under AppleTalk I =
have two settings:
Number one is "Connect using EtherTalk" (AppleTalk over Ethernet).
Number two is "Card Farallon Enet PC Card" (because I use a Farallon =
Card).
It is all that is needed for getting access to my IntraNet (Ethernet =
Network) using NCU and other connection software with AppleTalk.
In InterNet Setup (NIE 2.0) I have made one setup called Intranet =
TCP/IP (and one for PPP).
In the IntraNet setup I have made the following choices:
Configuration: Manual (because i have no DHCP server)
Card: Farallon Enet PC Card (This is the same as choosen in Prefs).
Subnet: Mask: 255.255.255.0 (This gives me at least room for around =
250 networks).
Local IP Address: 192.168.0.5 (As you see I have chosen the standard =
for internal use).
Gateway/Router Address: 192.168.0.10 (It would work if my Mac was a =
router)
Primary DNS/Nameserver Address: 192.168.0.10 (This is actually the IP =
number on my Mac)
Domain Name: jr.dk (I use my private Domain Name, but it is not =
needed for this setup).
My PowerMac 6500 has a similar setup in the Control Panel TCP/IP =
exclusive for the IntraNet.
For network access you must choose EtherNet. In The AppleTalk Control =
Panel you must choose
EtherNet. (remember AppleTalk over EtherNet on Newton is called =
EtherTalk)
To get my NPDS InterNet server on my Intranet, I need to change my =
Mac=B4s TCP/IP from my PPP InterNet setup to my Ethernet IntraNet =
setup (because I have no router).
When I do that my Mac and Newton are on the same Ethernet and they =
run AppleTalk over TCP/IP.
With my browser (Opera 5b3) I can connect to NPDS on IP number =
192.168.0.5 (Local IP address). The same workss for my LaserWriter =
(see below) and would certainly work for other units (Mail server - =
List server) on my EtherNet.
What is the catch???? and what do I need to get on the InterNet????
I need a Gateway/Router (Software or Hardware)
A couple of month ago (before I got my MP 2100 (and joined this =
list)) I tried to use
IP NetRouter (mentioned in one of the letters on this subject). When =
it was Configured, I made my PowerMac to a router (via PPP - because =
I don=B4t have a private backbone) without disturbing my computer at =
all. I configured it so I could use privat IP number series
(192.168.0.0) (NAT). IP NetRouter could also be Configured for =
Dynamic Host Configuring Protocol (DHCP) avoiding the need for using =
specific IP numbers on your units. You should just choose a number =
series ( between 192.168.0.1 - 255).
Besides this I could get one of my SE/30 on the internet also via =
ethernet - using Netscape 1.0 and Mosaic. It=B4s from the good old =
days in 1994, where nearly no ordinary PC users knew, what InterNet =
was. Yes I have 3 Macintosh SE/30 (1989). Another one of them is - by =
the way - configured as a complete Primary DNS/Name Server, DHCP =
server, Mail server, List Server, Internet server and FTP server for =
my IntraNet via EtherNet. It would also work with IP NetRouter =
configured to use Network Adress Translation (NAT) in my privat =
Domain (jr.dk)
Apple has a similar router software (AppleTalk Router ???), but as =
far as I know it is not free, and I have never seen or used it.
The IP AppleShare Server software is certainly not free.
A Linux Box i not fre at all unless you have a Linux CD ROM and an =
old(er) PC to spare and know how to set it up as a router or gateway.
I use LocalTalk Bridge (free) to get my LaserWriter 4/600 PS =
(PostScript) on the network.
I could also use it to get my old Macintosh Plus (1987) on the =
network via LocalTalk - and use it as an InterNet Server.
In Fact there is a Mac Plus on the InterNet that actually works as a =
real InterNet Server using Apples router software placed on an other =
Macintosh.
Yet an other proof off Apples Ingenuity from the past used in 2001. =
Could you imagine a PC from 1987 or 1989 used the same way.
You should also be able to get a MP 120/130 with NIE 1.0 on the =
network via serial connection using AppleTalk and a LocalTalk network.
Finally remember, that all the network information used in my private =
network must be changed and reflect the real world and the =
information delivered by your provider if you choose to setup a =
software/hardware router in your network to get your Newton on the =
InterNet.
Anyway I hope this example will give some of you folks out there an =
idea of "How to do".
By the way - I am new to this list (14/08/2001). I have used Newton =
in the past (MP120), but got my hands on an MP 2100 recently. I think =
there is many off you who does a great job in keeping The Newton =
alive by writing software - I wish I could.
If anyone find out to get in contact with Tactile Software for serial =
numbers I would be glad. I need to get the FTP browser going.
J=F8rgen (Jorgen) Riishede
PS: Apple forever and forever again. The same goes for =
Newton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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