Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100

From: Johannes Wolf (
Date: Thu Jun 27 2002 - 09:57:07 EDT

Oh, Oh, bad news.

But you did not answer my question if you isolated the Implant to the logic
board - I mean if you put something non-conductive inbetween the Implant PCB
and the logic board?
If not you have surely caused an short cut on the logic board which caused
serious damage.
For instance I could imagine that the oscillator circuit on the logic board
is damaged - so the Newt will not have any clock ...

I would recommend to get some of the cheap and worn Newts for $55 and
replace the logic board. But this should be done by somebody with
If you cannot find somebody near to you I am willing to help you (I have
already done that a few times). The bad thing is the shipping costs to
Europe and back (I assume that you are located in the U.S.)


> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of James Mackey
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:24 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100
> Well, I pulled the SER-001 and put it in my other Newt. I de-soldered the
> Implant and put the original crystal back and let it sit
> overnight. It still
> doesn't turn on or make any noises. :(
> >From: "Johannes Wolf" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject:
> Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100 >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002
> 08:42:23 +0200
> >>>So what is the behaviour of yor Newt now? >No sound and no screen after
> startup? >>After reading what you did I really wonder if you isolated the
> implant PCB >and its connections properly while experimenting
> with different
> positions of >the implant. That you closed the nack cover with an
> imperceptable bulge >indicated that the implant PCB must have been pressed
> hardly against the >logic board. >There is a good chance that you
> introduced
> a shortcut between implant and >logic board. >>I would recommend
> to do what
> you already proposed: replace the crystal and >remove all implant
> connections. >To be safe you can also remove the SER-001, but
> this board is
> for sure NOT >the reason for the behaviour of your Newt. >>Johannes
> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>From:
> >>[]On Behalf Of James
> Mackey >>Sent:
> Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:22 AM >>To: >>Subject:
> [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100 >>>>>>>>>>I had an Implant accel and an
> SER-001 in it. The flip-cover would not stay >>back in the locked position
> (imperceptable bulge of the back >>case) so I was >>experimenting with
> several alternate locaitons for the accelerator. So now >>the Newt won't
> boot, and it failed to recover after an overnight hiatus >>(following the
> instructions on the FAQ). I don't know if anything inside >>might have
> touched and caused the problem. Maybe I was too >>greedy. That
> Newt >>was my
> skanky daily driver, and it would be nice if it could be recovered. >>All
> theinternal connectors are still secure and I removed and
> reinstalled >>the
> PCB card and SER-001 without any luck. I might try de-soldering the
> >>Implantand putting the old crystal back to see if it was the part that
> >>failed. >>>>JM >>>>>From: James Elliott >Reply-To:
> >To: >> >Subject: Re:
> [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies >>site >Date: >>Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:22:16 -0400
> >>>What sort of hotrodding were you up to? >>>>-James >>>It looks
> like quite
> a useful site. The J&K Sales link >>will come >>in handy. I >>need to get
> another 2100 after I murdered one of mine >>yesterday. I was >>probably
> asking for trouble by hotrodding the hardware >>toomuch. >>>>JM
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