From: Josef Chessor (josefcub_at_gmail.com)
Date: Tue Sep 28 2004 - 08:24:40 PDT
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:56:28 -0400, Victor Rehorst
<victor_at_newtontalk.net> wrote:
> This is a big nasty error to get in Extras. It might mean that you have some
> bad internal flash. Typically, when Extras triggers this error it means that
> it failed to successfully read the Packages soup (yes, packages are stored in
> a soup, it's just hidden from view) to get the list of packages. 99% of the
> time this means that your Packages soup is corrupted.
Ouch. I was hoping you wouldn't say that. Since I've recovered
(thanks to miracles such as antibiotics, antihistamines, and aspirin)
a few of my wits in the meantime, I'm actually testing on my pristine
2000 that, up until a few minutes ago, hadn't been used for more than
five minutes since late 1998.
I'd use the 2100, but when I plug in the dongle it awakens but
refuses to connect to NCU via serial or appletalk (and the other ones
do. I think I know what caused the case damage on my spare now...
Someone dropped their 2100 on the dongle. *wince*)...
Since the spectre of dead Flash scares me silly, I'm going to try
the NIE2 install on the 2000 both with, and without, my restore image
and see what comes up. I'll post when I have some results.
> > ----
> > System Update 710031 - Update to 710260 which fixes the Dates find bug.
> > DoorChime2 - Voyager doorbell, system sound. (Free)
> > ExtraExtras - More things to do with items in the Extras drawer. (Freeware)
>
> I'd omit this one, since it messes with Extras and that's where you are having
> an issue.
>
> I'd question the need for HeapSaver as well. It removes packages'
> RemoveScripts from the NS heap that should be there. 20K of heap is not a lot
> when you'll likely have over 300K free even after having all of your packages
> installed.
Good point. I'll remove it, and HeapSaver. During the night, I awoke
and realized that maybe NIE2 didn't like HeapSaver's stealing its
install scripts for some reason. I would be overjoyed beyond compare
if that was the problem.
> Again, if you're installing from scratch, what prefs need to be cleaned?
Those were installed partly due to them being in my restore image from
the 2000, and partly because old habits die hard (when coming from an
un-upgraded MP2000). I had a combo which worked well, and stable, and
had hoped NIE2 would integrate better with it, assuming the flash ram
isn't as damaged as I fear.
> Order of installation (IMHO) should be:
>
> -Internet Enabler
> -Internet Setup
> -ISP Templates
> -Newton Devices
> -Modem/Serial and/or Ethernet support
Thanks for the pointers, Victor. They'll be the first things I try
today as I take the long road to either figuring it out. Worse comes
to worst, I'll probably end up asking the list who is left that can do
Flash RAM chip replacements (Maybe a swap from my dongle-dead 2100 to
my good one? Easier to buy a motherboard from J&K sales and swap...).
Josef
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