From: DJ Vollkasko (DJ_Vollkasko_at_gmx.net)
Date: Wed May 25 2005 - 13:07:31 PDT
Subject: Re: [NTLK] a french card for my GPS Newton
Date: 2005-05-25 10:39:41
>> Hello, I'm french user and i would to use the GPS with my Newton.
Which model?
> 1) no, it is no stupid idea
Johannes is right! With GPS Map 2.1 (now freeware, from UNNA or
http://www.stillnewt.org/library/_Software/_GPS%20Software/GPS%20Map/
GPS%20Map%202.1%20(Full%20Version,%20NOS%202.x)) ) you can set routes
of up to 100 waypoints, record your travel, measure speed, log position
and height... Set your own NavPoints... Use your own maps...
What the Newton can't do: You can't ask the Newton "take me from Rue P.
Guyot in Podunkville to Schnitzelstrasser in Podunkburg", or "where is
le next gas station" and get a useful result. The Newton's available
GPS solutions DO offer navigation, but DON'T offer routing.
> 2) a Europe Map is provided with GPSMap which is now freeware for us
> you can find both at Unna
I haven't been able to find it at UNNA. Maybe it collects dust in the
submission queue http://toronto.unna.org/cgi-bin/unna/list.cgi ?
But it is available from
http://www.stillnewt.org/library/_Software/_GPS%20Software/GPS%20Map/
Maps/EUROMAPS . (Thanks to the kind contributor! ;=} ) Install only the
packages you need, this map (6 parts) adds up to about 30 MB!
Talking about GPS Map -- I'm still looking for the full version of GPS
Map for NOS 1.x. Unfortunately, the original developer doesn't seem to
have these packages himself, and they aren't on UNNA or the original
website's mirror http://mirrors.unna.org/www.soaring.de/gps .
If anybody has this, pls. drop me a line so I can put it up on the
library. It is freeware now (actually unsupported abandonware) and okay
with the developer.
I am also looking for any manuals that are not already up at
http://www.stillnewt.org/library/_Software/_GPS%20Software/GPS%20Map .
E.g. the manual for GPS Map 2.1 is only a *supplement* to the manual
for the NOS 1.x full version, which seems not to be on UNNA or any
other location. So if you can supply me with any manual that the
library doesn't already have, I'd be much obliged.
> 3) Route 66 is nice but NOT compatible
...and you can use it as basis for creating your own GPS Map map
containers, AFAIK.
Also if you have a GPS-aware version of Route 66, you can use this for
tracking, too, if your GPS device connects to your computer (e.g.
AQ-300 with C3001 USB cable). If your computer is an iBook or
Powerbook, Route 66 will be nice, I think.
So: It is not necessary to have this, but it might help with creating
maps and have other potential uses for you.
Route 66 doesn't offer topographic maps, I think, which is what I'd
love to have. I don't care much about streets and highways when I'm out
with my folding boat... So I will have to find a good source of
European topographic maps in nice resolution (at least 1:50000),
preferably for free. Satellite maps would also be okay. ;=}
>> - Or I could create my french map???
>
> 4) you can create your own maps for GPSMap
...either from scanned paper maps (e.g. topographic maps 1:25000), maps
from routing software or websites such as http://www.maporama.com (nice
feature: Click on the map and get that position's coordinates...).
Some people say it's not so easy, but there are one or two manuals on
how to do this (see
http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/GPSMapMaking and
http://www.stillnewt.org/library/_Software/_GPS%20Software/GPS%20Map/
GPS%20Map%20Lite%201.2.9%20(NOS%201.x)/GML_Man.pdf ).
GPS Map is very nice with several maps of different resolution... When
you move from one map to another one, the application changes the maps
(That's why the Europe map can be installed in several parts). If you
move into an area covered by two maps, ka-ploing, the map with the
higher resolution will be shown (e.g. you drive from Podunkville to
visit me in Podunkburg, and you see the European map and the highways
you are travelling on. But as soon as you enter Podunkburg, of which
you have prepared + installed a detailed city map, GPS Map will display
*this* now map and track your progress on it!).
> 5) I do not know the AQ-Max, but the main issues are:
> - power supply (if external, no problem, but less convenient)
With MP 2x00 and Adriano's NewtNav, no problem.
With MP1x0, you'd need to have a Y-adapter (PS/2(m) one end, USB(M) and
MiniDIN 9(M) on the other ends) and use Ron's LakeTahoeHikingNewton
setup (see Wiki). Adriano can build you this Y-adapter, it will not be
expensive, ask him.
> - data interface (RS-232 would be best fitting to the Newt, but you
> need an
> adapter SUB DB-9 to Mini-DIN 8)
Of course you could always send the GPS mouse to Adriano and ask him to
change the plug on the mouse's cable... But then you'd lose the
manufacturer's connection options, which you can buy off-the-rack. --
When buying GPS receivers always think of what other hardware you have
that you could possibly want to connect to, and on what platform you
will be able to configure the receiver. In my case, I use the AQ-300 as
delivered, and use NewtNav to connect to Newton, and C3001 USB cable
with Prolific PL-2303 chip to connect to my Powerbook.
Note that I bought AQ-300 simply because it was cheap and available.
But I'd much prefer better service than the manufacturer gave me (just
look at the download page of their website http://www.aqmax.com ...if
this ever loads... no specs, faqs, manual, firmware updates on the
website, either... no tools for the Mac to configure the receiver...),
perhaps you get better service from Polstar or Holux (at higher prices,
though...). -- I'm happy with the product (good SiRF II chipset), don't
get me wrong, and the USB cable works nice (with fresh drivers from
Prolific, not the blab the manufacturer sent me...), but things *could*
have been easier for me...
> DJ Vollkasko is providing a Wiki page on the topic.
> Have a look there for more info.
It's actually metastasized to more than one during Johannes' holiday...
And then there are Ron's pages... Corrections from Adriano and
others... and any addtions and new discoveries from all Newtonians
welcome -- esp. newbies!
Start here http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/GPSOnNewton .
http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/GPSMap lists all the
packages and versions of GPS Map that I was able to hunt up and an
attempt at a FAQ for GPS Map (which will be trimmed down, as the more
config-related stuff will end up here
http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/GPSHardwareConfiguration).
Here's http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/GPSHardware stuff
on all sorts of GPS hardware that is compatible, and this is about my
receiver http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/AQ-300 (I think
you have seen this page already ;=} ).
This is the NewtNav-FAQ
http://tools.unna.org/wikiwikinewt/index.php/NewtNav, I'll put up a
review there some time soon (this week or next), too.
The Wiki is not very detailed in some topics, so if you find anything
that you can contribute, just click "edit" and enter it! (Don't forget
to save,
though... ;=} ). Especially for the GPS pages it could use much help,
from experienced people checking for mistakes, to Newbies who write
step-by-step documentations of their experiments. These will be nice
manuals for the next person to try the same...
Cheers,
'Kasko
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>
>
> Hello, I'm french user and i would to use the GPS with my Newton.
> - First question: I think that is not stupid idea? No?
> - And my big problem is : Where can I find a french or Europe map to
> download in the Flash Card on my eMate?
> - Route 66 is a compatible map software?
> - Or I could create my french map???
> - I think that the AQ-Max AQ-300-U-PS2 (GPS mouse) is the best
> adaptator. It's true???
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