doppler wrote:
>
> id gladly pay steve a couple of bucks, as well as the person whod do the
> port. why not rally a bunch of programmers to make this port reality on the
> mac?
>
> what i also would like to see is IrDA-capablity to synch or, at least
> export/import docs. that would make it possible to extract/import data
> without any cables or connections, which is quite useful on the road.
>
> if the programmers would let the translators be an open-source project, wed
> probably soon see many implementations for such things as MS ALPACA (MS
> Office 2001/PIM) - Names, Project - BluePrint, Word - Works etc.
>
> Jim Anderson [jiman@microsoft.com] wrote 00-08-03 19.11:
>
> > This is a long piece of mail. You have been warned.
> >
> > This thread seems to have migrated from a request for Mac NCU to a
> > discussion of the morality of software piracy. I don't want to debate
> > whether or not it is moral to use a copy of software that you can't
> > otherwise get, but it seems from reading the license that came with my copy
> > of NCU (as well as the fact that Apple gives away the NCU beta updater on
> > their support website, but not the full version) that "pirating" a copy of
> > the software is illegal.
> > This puts Newton users with Macs in a quandary. As far as I know
> > (I'm not a Mac person), NCU is the only way for Mac users to do backups,
> > install packages and import and export documents (in one package). If Apple
> > is indeed selling NCU for the Mac (which isn't really clear), then the only
> > legitimate route for getting a copy of Mac NCU would be to buy it from
> > Apple. This means that if you don't already own a copy of it, the only way
> > to do backups, etc, is to pay Apple some money.
> > Note, however, that NCU isn't really the only solution, if you don't
> > mind using several means to accomplish your goals. Newton Backup Utilities
> > for the Mac are available free for downloading from Apple. NBU lets you do
> > backups and restore, as well as to install packages. If you have a TCP/IP
> > connection between your Newton and the outside world (through a modem,
> > Ethernet, whatever), you can email data to and from your Newton as well as
> > NCU would be able to transfer them. I use the windows version of NCU at
> > work, and I can attest that simplemail does a better job of handling Notes
> > and Works documents than Windows NCU can.
> > In addition, anyone who can program Macs who wants to be a hero
> > should take a look at NewtonLink. This is a desktop app that runs on Unix
> > systems and provides the best data transfer with Newtons that I've ever
> > seen. I use this at home, and every time I run it I'm tempted to port it to
> > Windows and throw away that buggy behemoth that is NCU. NewtonLink does
> > backups and restore, package installation, and data transfer between the
> > Newton (Notes, Dates, Names, etc) and a whole fistful of Unix PIMs. Since
> > NewtonLink is open source software, anyone can legally get the source code
> > and modify it at will. Mac port, anyone? The only caveat about NewtonLink is
> > that it requires you to have sloup on your Newton. I for one, however, would
> > far rather pay Steve Weyer $10 for sloup (free when you register NewtsCape)
> > than pay Apple $35 (or whatever they want for NCU).
Roman,
The NewtonLink project is open source. It means that if you use any of
this code, you need to provide your own application free. Unless the
code would be really easy to port, I doubt anybody will ever take on the
task. Specially since it seems from my observations that NewtonLink uses
a serial connection only to the Newton. Since there is no longer a
serial port on all shipping Macs, for close to 2 years now, that would
mean that the programmer doing the port would have to re-write all the
connection stuff, all of this for free.
BTW, I did send an email last week to the guy in charge of the source
repository and I still have to hear back from him! I guess that free
projects force you to find other lucrative activities to pay the bills,
so that you have less time supporting those free projects...
-Laurent.
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