>"Jason M. Smith" wrote:
>> So, to access the Newton over AppleTalk on Ethernet... it
>> looks like the Carbon app would be able to *see* the Newton, but not
>> establish a connection to it through AppleTalk. Am I correct in
>> this? Any OT gurus out there?
>Not an OT guru, but without going into any NDA violation, I can testify
>that NCU sees and connects to my 2100 on AppleTalk over Ethernet.
This is under DP4? (BTW, I have it, and am a registered and
paid Student Developer, so I think we're okay to talk freely. :) )
I've held off installing DP4 at home, just using it at work,
and one of the reasons was that I didn't want to lose backing up the
MP, forcing me to downgrade again... that would just be a headache.
But maybe now I'll give it a shot... Heck, the drive's
> > Since NIE is available on the NewtonOS 2.x units, would it be
>> possible to roll a new Docking solution on both ends from scratch,
>> bypassing the Dock protocol that seems to give everyone fits?
But oh my, what a job. :/
>> >> This reminds me very much of the claims that the move to PPC
>> >>was going to kill Apple, since there was no way they could possibly
>> >>make 68K emulation work, and if they did, it wouldn't work well
>> >>enough to make a difference.
>> >It was much easier that time, since the OS philosophy didn't change.
>> No, just all the implementation...
>The little problem here with OS X is that not only they change the core
>OS, but they also decided to revamp the interface. I think we should
>keep these 2 things separate, as the GUI doesn't have anything to do
>with running a Classic application under OS X.
Absolutely correct. They two are (or should be - one of the
problems with the MacOS Toolbox) completely separate.
>I've been using for
>sometime and it's nice. The display is fabulous. The anti-alias text
>everywhere is very nice to your eyes.
Agreed - now if they will just add pop-up folders and
docklets to the Dock, I'll be quite happy. :)
> > Agreed, but go back and look at my argument on the shrinking
>> of that market over the next few years... it *will* happen. There's
>> no way around it. In two to three years, the balance may have
>> shifted enough so that you see Cocoa as the proper choice for your
>> market. And no, I don't think two to three years is too short a
>> time... the benefits to the user are going to make MacOS X the most
>> eagerly wanted upgrade ever, IMHO. MacOS 9 migration was a drop in
>> the bucket compared to this. :) Let's face it, if you had an older
>> machine running System 7, MacOS 9 didn't offer *that* many reasons to
>> upgrade. It was a good solid leap, but not compelling. MacOS X will
>> be, I believe. It has the stability (I think the record so far on my
>> machine at work is 8 months uptime, and that's only because I had to
>> move offices...), the power, and the consumer technologies they've
>> come to expect from Apple. Plus some new goodies. ;)
>Oh yes! Now, whenever I have an application that doesn't behave under OS
>X, it just gets ejected, leaving the OS untouched! How nice and how
>welcome as a change!
Isn't it though? I did manage to get the Desktop to crash
once last week, unreproducable, naturally... :/ Telnetting in from
another machine fixed it, but that's not really an option for a lot
of people... :/
But not bad for an alpha release... :)
> > Also, Objective-C has this nice little thing called 'posing',
>> where a subclass can stand in for the superclass, system wide. Want
>> all your windows to have a purple border? Subclass NSWindow, add the
>> purple border, tell it to pose as NSWindow system-wide. Done. (Oh,
>> sorry - that's only for all the Cocoa apps... the Carbon and Classic
>> apps can't play there.)
>And then you have classes for almost any OS-based functionalities, like
>NSThread, NSPipe, NSTask and so on. Very powerful. And since all the GUI
>is based on classes, you can always subclass to achieve any kind of
>patching. Very elegant and very powerful, indeed.
Of course, you're still going to have many of the same types
of potential clashes as you did with Extensions... but at least the
OS/Obj-C enforce some error control through selector signatures.
It's an *ordered* chaos. :)
It is just me, or are there some people that have their head
stuck in 1990? *sigh*
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