[NTLK] $50.00 wireless Internet for Newton.

From: john_fraser_at_mac.com
Date: Mon Sep 24 2001 - 10:35:39 EDT


"I think that MacIP is when you use Ethernet over LocalTalk, so it's kind of
related to the LocalTalk bridge."

It's actually a form of connection that allows TCP/IP protocalls to travel via MacIP (instead of ethernet or modem).

I think there is a confusion between TCP/IP and Ethernet. It really doesn't have to be anything related to ethernet but =
since ethernet is a common place to have appletalk (MacIP) people confuse the two quite a bit.

"But now that I think about it, I don't think that the Newton has the ability
to use MacIP. The only way to make an Ethernet connection that seems
possible is through the use of an Ethernet card. I don't see any MacIP
choice anywhere."

I do thank Laurent for the information about the newton not being able to handle MacIP. But there is confusion with the =
use of ethernet I want to clear up. MacIP can be used over any appletalkable interface. Some of these include:

IrDA
Ethernet
localtalk (serial) <-- what I'm most interested in MacIP for.

It's complex to try to explain but I'll try....

If you have used phonenet connectors you might know what I'm talking about. Phonenet connectors are ways to use local ta=
lk over a very long distance (I've used over 100 feet) for slow networking via appletalk, different computers. Newton's=
 Printers, Macs etc, can all use phonenet connectors to communicate. These phone net connectors connect to the serial po=
rt of the computer (or newton) and on the other side of the connector you have a phone plug (RJ-15 I think it's called). =
 You can use standard phone line to connect the devices together and allow file sharing newton connecting or laser printi=
ng to/from any macintosh / printer / newton on the newton.

Sony has a device that is meant mainly for home modems. Basically it's a 900Mhz cordless system that you plug into your =
wall and another wireless end into your laptop's Modem. Using the same technology 900Mhz use, it's transmits the signel=
 from the modem to the wall or vise versa. (I have confirmed this a while back on a modem as I connected without a proble=
m). This device stays on all the time and used 5v power source.

My idea is to use these for localtalk phonenet connectors. Since the receivers are there to basically transmit informati=
on back and forth whether it's modem a phone or data via phonenet. With a internconnect port I ordered (thanks to you gu=
ys for giving me the link). I'm creating a 5v out for any external device (such as this wireless 900Mhz transmitter).

In order to get the internet on the newton wireless via this method, I would need to make sure there was some way to get=
 internet via the serial port on the newton from another computer setup to host via Macip (or other localtalk compatible =
internet method).

I have confirmed that a mac can be setup to route TCP/IP (internet protocol) through localtalk (serial ports) and to othe=
r macs on the network (although the setup is not 100% known at this point). So my next issue is finding a way to have th=
e newton say "Oh ya there's TCP/IP protocol being transmitted over the localtalk port. I want to use it".

I guess I'll stop asking the questions and go off on my own. Please update me if you know of any way to get a newton on =
the net via appletalk on localtalk.

The final soltuion I'm going to try if this doesn't work is to fit the 900Mhz wireless system to a RJ-45 jack (it's 4 wir=
e capable) and use ethernet net. Either way I should have a sellable solution within 1.5 months.

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