Re: [NTLK] [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]

From: Lee, Christopher J (christopher.j.lee_at_intel.com)
Date: Thu Jun 13 2002 - 14:57:41 EDT


It's a shame that it takes a sporting event to stop people from =
murdering
one another...

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Andrade Le=E3o [mailto:alexleao_at_mpcnet.com.br]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:23 AM
To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
Subject: [NTLK] [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]

Well, I don=B9t watched the =B3match=B2 USA x Korea, but I believe that =
was quite
boring, just because they are newbies (both USA and Korea team) and =
cant
present you with some good show. They learn fast and some day I hope to =
see
USA and Korea like a great power in footbal world. Try watch some =
masters
like germans, italians, spanish, swedens, argentinians or brasilians =
and you
will see some fine art.

Footbal is not a war. In fact, this sport have the power to stop a war. =
In
the cup of USA (1994), in the final =B3match=B2, the conflict in the =
Balcans
stoped during that final =B3match=B2. Both sides chearing for Brazil =
team, the
champion on that cup (actually the unique team with 4 cups).

[ ]s.

Alex

From: "Lee, Christopher J" <christopher.j.lee_at_intel.com>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] AW: [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:39:28 -0700

I guess that this attitude is what COMPLETELY turns me off about sports =
=3D
in
general and Footbol in particular...

The lemming-like attitude that drives masses of people to the point =3D
where
they would KILL someone over kicking a ball into a net...it's =3D
sickening, and
a microcosm of the larger problem of nationalistic hatred.

Think about it - you are talking about being swayed to the point of =3D
violence
by the on-field performance of people who don't know you and probably
wouldn't care to know you...professionals being PAID. They aren't an =
=3D
army -
and if they become a symbol of national pride, then I suggest that =3D
their
fans are exactly the kind of people that have led untold millions to =
=3D
die in
pointless conflicts over some real or imagined slight to national =3D
pride.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Matzerath [mailto:christian.matzerath_at_stormy.tv]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:50 AM
To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
Subject: [NTLK] AW: [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]

Yes, it is such a bore! Why can't I live in the US, where they =3D
broadcast
really exiting sports, such as wrestling or monstertruckracing or =3D
bowling...

Lee, football isn't a tv-sport, it is actually a sport event, which you =
=3D
want
to see live in the stadium, where the audience celebrates and prays and =
=3D
not
seldom literaly fights for the team - no popcorn, no organ or claping
machines. You have to have expierienced how thousand of fans travel =3D
hundreds
of km twice a month to support their team at an away-ground, then you =
=3D
won't
judge football a boring game - it is in fact a kind of an exciting war
without weapons.

Best Matze, supporter of Fortuna 95 Duesseldorf, a team playing in the =
=3D
4th
(!!!) german division.

-----Urspr=3DFCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
[mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]Im Auftrag von Lee, =3D
Christopher
J
Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2002 15:31
An: 'newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net'
Betreff: Re: [NTLK] [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]

I can't help it. I find football/soccer/footbol ineffably boring.

In the interests of making sure that everything I send to the list is =
=3D
at
least slightly off-topic...

Did anyone get the new Korn album? It's not too bad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Glass [mailto:jonglass_at_mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:09 AM
To: Newtontalk
Subject: Re: [NTLK] [ot][soccer][or football][whatever]

on 6/12/02 1:51 PM, Rich Lindsay at rich_at_www.thisoldnewt.com wrote:

> with the vast nationalities represented in this community I thought =
=3D
we=3D3D20=3D3D
>
> could have some fun with the World Cup.........

Do you mean.... that someone in the US is actually...... paying.....
attention to the World Cup????!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable!! Rich, you must =
=3D
be the
first and only!!!

--
Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
<jonglass_at_usa.net>
<glasshaus5_at_aol.com>

'A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely =3D overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. =3D While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose =3D their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first =3D external or internal invader." -- Samuel Adams

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