From: Johannes Wolf (mp2100_at_mail-gw.estec.esa.int)
Date: Tue Oct 21 2003 - 00:10:13 PDT
Hi Frank,
I can assure you, here at work it was pretty much the same for me.
I have a private Mac here in my office and the first problem for me was to
find a way to print from that Mac to our HP4100 Network printer.
Trying to find a solution I fiddeled around and thought: ok, why not give my
Newt a try?
So I selected "chose network printer" and a long long long list of network
printers appeared!!
Unfortunately the printers do not have distinct names, because there is more
then one printer of the same type in the network.
It took me some time to find out which one is "my" network printer, but
finally it worked great.
The application called netnames was also helpful for that task - you can
first try to ping the device before trying to print a page.
The only thing I have installed on my Newt are the network card drivers and
printpack2, thats it.
After a while I found out that on the Mac (OS9.1)I needed to install the new
desktop printer utility in order to be able to set up a TCP-IP printer for
the Mac. This worked fine.
After printing out the test page of that printer (using the printer menu)I
found out two things:
1) of course the TCP/IP address of that printer
2) since that printer is an HP and equipped with a JetDirect interface there
is an AppleTalk Interface on it and the AppleTalk/EtherTalk can be activated
on the printer menu
Finally I felt so free to change the AppleTalk setting to ACTIVE. Nobody
complained and
since then I can use the standard Mac Laserprinter driver and printing from
the Newt works as well.
If the network guys tell you that AppleTalk is switched off that most
probably means it is not supported from the network servers and maybe not
from the routers. But since EtherTalk is AppleTalk encapsulated in TCP/IP
packages I cannot imagine that there is a way to block it in a network. In
fact I can "see" a lot of other Macs via AppleTalk in our network and I am
able to access the internet as well - despite the fact that there is a
company policy not to use Macs!! ;-)
Ok, I could have sent this directly and in german, but this way the other
list members can read this positive message as well.
Cheers
Johannes
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net
> [mailto:newtontalk-bounce_at_newtontalk.net]On Behalf Of Frank Gruendel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:20 AM
> To: newtontalk_at_newtontalk.net
> Subject: [NTLK] TCP/IP on Newton?
> Hi folks,
> I have this uneasy feeling this must be a FAQ, but I didn't find
> it there. So please be gentle.
> I've learned today that our system administrators switched off all
> AppleTalk. There are heaps of printers out there that can be
> reached (as they said) via TCP/IP. My question is whether this
> is possible at all without installing Basilisk (see, I DID read
> the FAQ...)
> The Newton's Internet Setup has a "Manual" setting that allows me to set
> a) Local IP address
> b) Subnet mask
> c) Gateway/Router address
> d) Primary DNS / Name server address
> Our administrator, who until eight hours ago hadn't ever seen
> a Newton, said that this should be sufficient to connect if he
> sets up a fixed IP address for me. Which he would have done
> if his computer's hard disk hadn't died the very moment the
> promise was made.
> I'm wondering, though, if this is worth the effort. The dock only
> allows connecting via Serial/Modem/AppleTalk, the AppleTalk
> prefs in the preferences panel only lets me choose between LocalTalk
> and AppleTalk.
> Thanks for all insights.
> Frank
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