From: Richard (newtontalk_at_rssternberg.org)
Date: Sat Dec 17 2005 - 08:53:21 PST
If it makes you feel better, Victor, I run a legit list server for
another volunteer group, and I've been getting weird, transient,
bounce messages for the latter half of this week. The listserver got
on spamcop's rbl. I wrote to explain we're legit. Ten minutes later
(before they could have reviewed and corrected, even automatically),
the same recipient gets the next list message. Then, I get a regular
email bounce because my relay mail server is on spamhaus. Before I
can check into it, another message goes through perfectly well to the
same recipient. For several weeks before that, I've also had lost
message which neither bounce nor arrive. At first, I thought the
clients who reported the problem were mistaken or inattentive. But,
I've gotten fairly similar reports now from two clients weeks apart.
Half the mail goes through, and the other half -- addressed exactly
the same way -- neither arrives nor returns. My more current theory
is that something upstream is wrongly nailing it as spam and not
reporting the rejection. I previously thought that was impossible
under the SMTP protocol.
Anyway, I write this in the hope it actually gets to you to report
that the problem may be bigger than NewtonTalk of your local ISP. Not
sure, myself.
-- Richard
On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Victor Rehorst wrote:
> mac.com has been blocking all messages originating from NewtonTalk
> for at
> least the last 24 hours. They are bouncing all incoming list
> messages with an
> error that says that we are spamming them. This is obviously not
> the case,
> since NewtonTalk has been a legitimate, opt-in list for almost 10
> years now.
>
> I've attempted to contact .Mac admins to correct this issue, but if
> any of you
> subscribers with .Mac accounts see this message on the RSS feed or
> my news
> post on the home page, please contact .Mac support and tell them to
> fix this
> problem. I'm hoping that the more complaints they get, the faster
> they'll fix
> it. I can't do anything about it.
>
> (To add insult to injury, my home ISP is currently having a total
> routing
> hissy-fit at the moment, so even I am having problems getting and
> sending
> messages.)
>
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> Will the last person to leave the platform please turn off the
> backlight?
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