Re: [NTLK] Escale, installing Newton Packages...

From: Morgan Aldridge (makkintosshu_at_mac.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 04:23:52 PST


Another benefit is simplicity. Once I got Escale & DCL working
semi-reliably on my PowerMacs I turned off my Color Classic and put my
Newton Interconnect Dongle & serial cable. I now only carry my WiFi
card with me and can install extra packages either at home or at work.

In fact, with the Dock application's ability (on the Newton) to browse
the remote machine for packages to install, I just queue up potentially
useful packages and can try them out from the comfort of my couch.

Part of the reason people are working on software like Escale &
NewtSync/nSync is that serial connectivity left the Mac in 1998, it's
slowly going away on the PC finally (even now you have to hack it to
slow it down enough to be usable)... in order to keep our Newtons going
we need to switch to more modern connectivity solutions. Ethernet &
WiFi should be easy (there's still bugs to work out in many of the
connectivity applications, but we're getting there), BlueTooth
shouldn't be hard either, a USB client controller chip (and port, of
course) add on like Brian has been discussing is another good option.

And face it, for better or worse, Classic & NCU needs to go.

Morgan Aldridge

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On Nov 9, 2005, at 10:22 PM, John wrote:
> Wow, long day %-]
> Just getting in and I am curious as to what the benefits are of using a
> network connection vs. a direct serial cable?  Is this a more
> straightforward interface, or faster, or more reliable, or needed in a
> multi-user environment, or out of necessity ?
>
> I seem to be getting good results just using a serial cable to my Macs
> using either NCU in virgin Classic with a stealth serial port, or,
> NewTen in OSX 10.2.4.  Initially I was having torturous problems just
> getting my 2100 to connect at all but Marty was kind and patient enough
> (I was driving the poor guy nuts bugging him for help which he so
> graciously and wisely shared) to detect a telltale sign I had 
> overlooked
> in my new NCU installation which was either the result of a bad OS
> install or my unwitting download of the NCU .sit file as non-binary, I
> never did know which as after three or four days of penance searching
> blindly for the culprit I had enough and got fed up so I just re-
> initialized my PowerMac boot drive and did a fresh virgin Classic
> install of 9.2.1.  I then downloaded the NCU .st file fresh again from
> UNNA this time being certain to for the file to download as binary not
> txt.  Then, the very first time I plugged in the serial cable from my
> PowerMac to my 2100, bingo. It's been perfection ever since.  Then I
> discovered equal stability and reliability on my 10.2.4 box using the
> KeySpan USB dongle. Never a lost bit or byte by just using the standard
> old serial cable.
>
> So this is why I'm wondering now should I explore further to gain
> additional benefit from a networked connection, or would this be for a
> special need?
>
> TIA, John
>
> 11/9/05  Miro issued the following and I have taken literary license to
> pass it along on a "Need to Know Basis"  . . .  ?
>
>> what is my option to install packages in 2100
>> via the Ethernet/AppleTalk ?
>
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