[NTLK] NewtonTalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 6
Jan Feigus
jfeigus at usa.net
Mon Dec 6 17:07:32 EST 2010
Hello,
Not sure if my email went through last week, but
I have a brand new Newton 2100 sealed in the box.
I opened the box to insure that it was a newton and
not some bricks of stone.....
If anyone is interested, please email me privately with
an offer, if I don't receive interest I'll be posting on ebay.
Thanks....
jfeigus at usa.net
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Aaron Brigati)
> 2. Re: Part Request: Interconnect Adapter (Michael L'Heureux)
> 3. Some things never die (Stephan Weber)
> 4. Re: Some things never die (Tony Kan)
> 5. Re: Thinking of giving it all up (Tony Kan)
> 6. Re: Thinking of giving it all up ( Gary Dunn )
> 7. Re: Thinking of giving it all up (Forrest Buffenmyer)
> 8. Re: Updating the Newton OS of an Original MessagePad
> (Riccardo Mori)
> 9. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Matthias Melcher)
> 10. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Matthias Melcher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:58:13 -0500
> From: Aaron Brigati <abrigati at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] HI there! Searching for a FirstFone
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net, romad at aol.com
> Message-ID: <FAF1CA48-DB83-4F0F-BE7E-C94144F91A1C at gmail.com>
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>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
> >
> > I believe that eBay thinks that "FirstFone" is a typo for "Firestone" so
> > it automatically changes the the search to the latter. The same thing
> > happens if you manually type in the top level eBay address and then do a
> > search for "FirstFone".
> >
> > Pretty arrogant programming on eBay's part since there are tons of
> > uncommon model names for items people want to sell or buy.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, ebay only does things like that if there are no
matches for the actual search term that you entered. So if there WAS A
FirstFone, it should show up.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:34:56 -0700
> From: "Michael L'Heureux" <mlheureux at online.fr>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Part Request: Interconnect Adapter
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTim5a2DqPs66V=f5Q9LgAj3bXo47sWSdrinoXCVh at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I noticed your message & was hoping someone out there might be able to help
> me too. My Newton's been sitting in a drawer for the past while since I
> accidentally deleted my wifi driver & I can't find my interconnect dongle
to
> hook it up to an old Mac.
>
> I DO have an interconnect -> DIN9 cable and would be willing to trade it
for
> a dongle, if someone out there wants it. I know I could somehow hook it up
> to a PC with that cable, but I'd like a dongle since I plan on getting a
> Newtway & using my Newton to take notes with.
>
> I'm a student, so I'd prefer not to spend too much money on this.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Michael
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 15:48:24 -0600
> From: Stephan Weber <ashkelon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NTLK] Some things never die
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTimeywRK3hWsrCDAYjOtpEpq436Em7iN4048Y7Zs at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I had BOTH of my Toshiba laptops, the big X305, that is my development
> machine, and the little netbook die within three days of each other. I was
> pretty perturbed. They were both approved for replacement on warranty 3 yr
> warranty, expiring in a couple months!). I went in to claim the
replacements
> and ended up with a couple Sonys.
>
> But the funny part was when the sales force was surprised that I expected a
> laptop to still be in use more than 4 years later -- flipped open the Newt
> (one kid actually gasped and asked if I would will it to him), and said
that
> my backup machine is an old GRiD that once belonged to NASA, and between
> these two machines I am keeping my business running in the 2 week interim.
>
> Yeah, I may have a skewed view of hardware, but I do believe it's possible,
> and that pitching serviceable machines in landfills is a sin. The netbook
is
> nice, but there's something so compelling about that instant-on readiness,
> smooth application access, and wonderful handwriting recognition that keeps
> me using the newt. I'm due for a backlight replacement and dreading it, but
> will do it to keep the old newt going.
>
> --
> The Masters don't give orders;
> they work with everybody else.
> When the job's done,
> people are amazed
> at what they accomplished.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:40:56 +1300
> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Some things never die
> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Message-ID: <EJEOIACEJAEGOBAFAADLMEGNGCAA.tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> You'll find this article interesting then:
> http://minimalmac.com/post/898242725/want-not-waste-not
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony Kan
>
> Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
> [snip]
> Yeah, I may have a skewed view of hardware, but I do believe it's possible,
> and that pitching serviceable machines in landfills is a sin. The netbook
is
> nice, but there's something so compelling about that instant-on readiness,
> smooth application access, and wonderful handwriting recognition that keeps
> me using the newt. I'm due for a backlight replacement and dreading it, but
> will do it to keep the old newt going.
> [snip]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:54:05 +1300
> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Message-ID: <EJEOIACEJAEGOBAFAADLAEGPGCAA.tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Gary
>
> You must live in a humid environment or something. Sounds like this is a
> challenge for Clark "Frank Gruendel" Kent to field. He's the "go to" man
when
> it comes to Newton batteries and power systems. Alternatively just getting
> another unit from JK or eBay might be the most convenient solution?
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony Kan
>
> Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
> [snip]
> Recently I set aside my MP2100s, after years of daily use. In their
> place I carry a smartphone, a T-Mobile myTouch 3G slide. It does mail,
> texting, Facebook, Twitter, and the web. But it can't touch the Newton
> when it comes to writing.
>
> I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
> have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
> finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
> drill.
>
> Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
> [snip]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:31:00 -1000
> From: " Gary Dunn " <osp at aloha.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
> To: " Tony Kan " <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>, newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID: <201012052330.oB5NUtp9028227 at smtpauth.pixi.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I would rate Honolulu as moderately humid, not as bad as Florida. I did buy
a second 2100 and it too has gone over to the dark side.
>
> I see five tiny Phillips head screws on the back. Will removing those allow
me to split the case and clean the battery contacts? Any booby traps to watch
out for?
>
> I assume the battery contacts are brass plated steel. Would automotive rust
converter work here? Another product?
>
>
> Gary Dunn, Honolulu
> Open Slate Project
> http://openslate.org
> http://www.facebook.com/garydunn808
> http://e9erust.blogspot.com
> Twitter @garydunn808
> sent from mini-slate
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
> Date: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:54 pm
> Subject: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
>
> Gary
>
> You must live in a humid environment or something. Sounds like this is a
> challenge for Clark "Frank Gruendel" Kent to field. He's the "go to" man
when
> it comes to Newton batteries and power systems. Alternatively just getting
> another unit from JK or eBay might be the most convenient solution?
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers
>
> Tony Kan
>
> Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
> [snip]
> Recently I set aside my MP2100s, after years of daily use. In their
> place I carry a smartphone, a T-Mobile myTouch 3G slide. It does mail,
> texting, Facebook, Twitter, and the web. But it can't touch the Newton
> when it comes to writing.
>
> I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
> have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
> finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
> drill.
>
> Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
> [snip]
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:55 -0700
> From: "Forrest Buffenmyer" <newtonphoenix at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
> To: "NewtonTalk" <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
> Message-ID: <E1PPORJ-0001xi-Ui at elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 6:33 pm Gary Dunn wrote:
> mum >
> >
> > I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
> > have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
> > finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
> > drill.
> >
> > Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
> >
>
> Gary:
> You said you thought "battery corrosion" was your problem...is it visible on
the battery? Or can you see it if you peek inside the Newton'a battery
compartment?
>
> There's basically 2 kinds of battery packs you could be using--alkaline and
NiMH. Of these, the latter could either be the original one or a recelled
version. Up until recently I would have told you that there would be no way
that the original would still be any good, after at least 13 years...most
likely on one end there's signs of corrosion visible around the small round
disc.
> (I say, "up until recently", because not long ago I won an eBay auction for
an MP2100 that included the original NiMH battery pack...that to my amazement
not only took a charge, but held it--in fact, I'm using it in this MP2100 on
which I'm writing this. There's more on all this at
http://www.newtonphoenix.org .)
>
> I suggest (obviously) replacing any corraded batteries...it would also be a
good idea to expose the contacts inside the battery compartment to check them
for signs of corrosion as well. Frank Greundel's excellent site at
http://www.pda-soft.de/2x00_disassemble.html is a big help with
disassembly...there's also
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple-Tablet-Teardown/2153/2. This last choice
is great if you just need large pictures to look at (like you've done this a
time or two before).
>
> Use household vinegar to clean the contacts...apply with a cotton swab until
the foaming stops, then carefully apply water--also on a swab--to "rinse" it
off.
>
> That should fix the problem...also, closely examine the entire contacts
assembly, sometimes there's bluish corrosion pther places beside the just the
metal contacts.
>
> Let us know bow (or if) this helped.
>
> Thanks,
> --Forrest
> --
> http://www.newtonphoenix.org
> -------
> "Newton, come here...I need you." --Alexander MessagePad Bell
> (Sent wirelessly from my NT MP2100 using Mail V)8
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:29:01 +0100
> From: Riccardo Mori <rick at newted.org>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Updating the Newton OS of an Original MessagePad
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID: <230F63F1-8D07-4861-981C-BC7BD4D77263 at newted.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> quoth M. Horvat:
>
> >> Now that I have an updated OMP, I'll search the list
> >> archives for software suggestions for 1.x devices, but if
> >> you NOS 1.x owners have some advice, fire away.
> >
> > I'd love to help! If you have any questions or problems, just contact me
off-list.
>
> Thank you, Matej!
>
> Could you begin by sharing a small list of what you consider essential
software add-ons for 1.x devices (or at least for *your* Newton)? I'm browsing
my Newton-related archive of links, but there's a lot of information to sift
through. I'm keeping this on-list, if you don't mind, because I think it may
help other NOS 1.x users :)
>
> Cheers,
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
> ..................................
> System Folder - The Platinum Days
> <http://systemfolder.wordpress.com>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:06:57 +0100
> From: Matthias Melcher <mm at matthiasm.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] HI there! Searching for a FirstFone
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID: <7CFDCCA6-042C-4980-B20F-8A09A6ED0880 at matthiasm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> On 04.12.2010, at 06:58, Aaron Brigati wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe that eBay thinks that "FirstFone" is a typo for "Firestone" so
> >> it automatically changes the the search to the latter. The same thing
> >> happens if you manually type in the top level eBay address and then do a
> >> search for "FirstFone".
> >>
> >> Pretty arrogant programming on eBay's part since there are tons of
> >> uncommon model names for items people want to sell or buy.
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge, ebay only does things like that if there are
no matches for the actual search term that you entered. So if there WAS A
FirstFone, it should show up.
>
> Not sure about that, but for a while EBay auctions could be cheated by
searching for items in a slightly misspelled wording. By doing this, one could
find auctions that nobody was bidding for and hence "cheat" the seller and buy
at minimum price.
>
> Since spelling has become a forgotten skill, EBay probably has introduced
this one-off correction to avoid complaints by spelling impaired sellers.
>
> Maybe if you type FistVone, EBay might auto-correct you to FirstFone?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:08:01 +0100
> From: Matthias Melcher <mm at matthiasm.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] HI there! Searching for a FirstFone
> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Message-ID: <6969BFD6-7151-48BB-8B17-FFFAC77A6343 at matthiasm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> PPS:
>
> as in Google, typing your word in quotes will disable the auto correction!
>
>
>
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