[NTLK] NewtonTalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 6

Michael L'Heureux michael.lheureux at gmail.com
Mon Dec 6 18:45:06 EST 2010


Does it come with a dongle?

ML

On Monday, December 6, 2010, Jan Feigus <jfeigus at usa.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> Not sure if my email went through last week, but
> I have a brand new Newton 2100 sealed in the box.
> I opened the box to insure that it was a newton and
> not some bricks of stone.....
>
> If anyone is interested, please email me privately with
> an offer, if I don't receive interest I'll be posting on ebay.
>
> Thanks....
>
> jfeigus at usa.net
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:00:35 PM EST
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> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
> Subject: NewtonTalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 6
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>>    1. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Aaron Brigati)
>>    2. Re: Part Request: Interconnect Adapter (Michael L'Heureux)
>>    3. Some things never die (Stephan Weber)
>>    4. Re: Some things never die (Tony Kan)
>>    5. Re: Thinking of giving it all up (Tony Kan)
>>    6. Re: Thinking of giving it all up ( Gary Dunn )
>>    7. Re: Thinking of giving it all up (Forrest Buffenmyer)
>>    8. Re: Updating the Newton OS of an Original MessagePad
>>       (Riccardo Mori)
>>    9. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Matthias Melcher)
>>   10. Re: HI there! Searching for a FirstFone (Matthias Melcher)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:58:13 -0500
>> From: Aaron Brigati <abrigati at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] HI there! Searching for a FirstFone
>> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net, romad at aol.com
>> Message-ID: <FAF1CA48-DB83-4F0F-BE7E-C94144F91A1C at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
>> >
>> > I believe that eBay thinks that "FirstFone" is a typo for "Firestone" so
>> > it automatically changes the the search to the latter. The same thing
>> > happens if you manually type in the top level eBay address and then do a
>> > search for "FirstFone".
>> >
>> > Pretty arrogant programming on eBay's part since there are tons of
>> > uncommon model names for items people want to sell or buy.
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, ebay only does things like that if there are no
> matches for the actual search term that you entered. So if there WAS A
> FirstFone, it should show up.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 12:34:56 -0700
>> From: "Michael L'Heureux" <mlheureux at online.fr>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Part Request: Interconnect Adapter
>> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
>> Message-ID:
>>       <AANLkTim5a2DqPs66V=f5Q9LgAj3bXo47sWSdrinoXCVh at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed your message & was hoping someone out there might be able to help
>> me too.  My Newton's been sitting in a drawer for the past while since I
>> accidentally deleted my wifi driver & I can't find my interconnect dongle
> to
>> hook it up to an old Mac.
>>
>> I DO have an interconnect -> DIN9 cable and would be willing to trade it
> for
>> a dongle, if someone out there wants it.  I know I could somehow hook it up
>> to a PC with that cable, but I'd like a dongle since I plan on getting a
>> Newtway & using my Newton to take notes with.
>>
>> I'm a student, so I'd prefer not to spend too much money on this.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 15:48:24 -0600
>> From: Stephan Weber <ashkelon at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NTLK] Some things never die
>> To: newtontalk at newtontalk.net
>> Message-ID:
>>       <AANLkTimeywRK3hWsrCDAYjOtpEpq436Em7iN4048Y7Zs at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> I had BOTH of my Toshiba laptops, the big X305, that is my development
>> machine, and the little netbook die within three days of each other. I was
>> pretty perturbed. They were both approved for replacement on warranty 3 yr
>> warranty, expiring in a couple months!). I went in to claim the
> replacements
>> and ended up with a couple Sonys.
>>
>> But the funny part was when the sales force was surprised that I expected a
>> laptop to still be in use more than 4 years later -- flipped open the Newt
>> (one kid actually gasped and asked if I would will it to him), and said
> that
>> my backup machine is an old GRiD that once belonged to NASA, and between
>> these two machines I am keeping my business running in the 2 week interim.
>>
>> Yeah, I may have a skewed view of hardware, but I do believe it's possible,
>> and that pitching serviceable machines in landfills is a sin. The netbook
> is
>> nice, but there's something so compelling about that instant-on readiness,
>> smooth application access, and wonderful handwriting recognition that keeps
>> me using the newt. I'm due for a backlight replacement and dreading it, but
>> will do it to keep the old newt going.
>>
>> --
>> The Masters don't give orders;
>> they work with everybody else.
>> When the job's done,
>> people are amazed
>> at what they accomplished.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:40:56 +1300
>> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Some things never die
>> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
>> Message-ID: <EJEOIACEJAEGOBAFAADLMEGNGCAA.tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> You'll find this article interesting then:
>> http://minimalmac.com/post/898242725/want-not-waste-not
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tony Kan
>>
>> Christchurch
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>> Yeah, I may have a skewed view of hardware, but I do believe it's possible,
>> and that pitching serviceable machines in landfills is a sin. The netbook
> is
>> nice, but there's something so compelling about that instant-on readiness,
>> smooth application access, and wonderful handwriting recognition that keeps
>> me using the newt. I'm due for a backlight replacement and dreading it, but
>> will do it to keep the old newt going.
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:54:05 +1300
>> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
>> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
>> Message-ID: <EJEOIACEJAEGOBAFAADLAEGPGCAA.tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> You must live in a humid environment or something.  Sounds like this is a
>> challenge for Clark "Frank Gruendel" Kent to field.  He's the "go to" man
> when
>> it comes to Newton batteries and power systems.  Alternatively just getting
>> another unit from JK or eBay might be the most convenient solution?
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tony Kan
>>
>> Christchurch
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>> Recently I set aside my MP2100s, after years of daily use. In their
>> place I carry a smartphone, a T-Mobile myTouch 3G slide. It does mail,
>> texting, Facebook, Twitter, and the web. But it can't touch the Newton
>> when it comes to writing.
>>
>> I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
>> have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
>> finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
>> drill.
>>
>> Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:31:00 -1000
>> From: " Gary Dunn " <osp at aloha.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
>> To: " Tony Kan " <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>,  newtontalk at newtontalk.net
>> Message-ID: <201012052330.oB5NUtp9028227 at smtpauth.pixi.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
>>
>> I would rate Honolulu as moderately humid, not as bad as Florida. I did buy
> a second 2100 and it too has gone over to the dark side.
>>
>> I see five tiny Phillips head screws on the back. Will removing those allow
> me to split the case and clean the battery contacts? Any booby traps to watch
> out for?
>>
>> I assume the battery contacts are brass plated steel. Would automotive rust
> converter work here? Another product?
>>
>>
>> Gary Dunn, Honolulu
>> Open Slate Project
>> http://openslate.org
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>> http://e9erust.blogspot.com
>> Twitter @garydunn808
>> sent from mini-slate
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Tony Kan" <tony.kan at clear.net.nz>
>> Date: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:54 pm
>> Subject: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
>> To: <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> You must live in a humid environment or something.  Sounds like this is a
>> challenge for Clark "Frank Gruendel" Kent to field.  He's the "go to" man
> when
>> it comes to Newton batteries and power systems.  Alternatively just getting
>> another unit from JK or eBay might be the most convenient solution?
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tony Kan
>>
>> Christchurch
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>> Recently I set aside my MP2100s, after years of daily use. In their
>> place I carry a smartphone, a T-Mobile myTouch 3G slide. It does mail,
>> texting, Facebook, Twitter, and the web. But it can't touch the Newton
>> when it comes to writing.
>>
>> I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
>> have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
>> finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
>> drill.
>>
>> Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
>> [snip]
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:55 -0700
>> From: "Forrest Buffenmyer" <newtonphoenix at mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Thinking of giving it all up
>> To: "NewtonTalk" <newtontalk at newtontalk.net>
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>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 6:33 pm Gary Dunn wrote:
>> mum >
>> >
>> > I would like to use my Newtons more but battery issues get in the way. I
>> > have had repeated problems with corroded battery contacts. When I
>> > finally get one to wake up I have to run though the date/time set
>> > drill.
>> >
>> > Have I reached the point where I should take one apart?
>> >
>>
>> Gary:
>> You said you thought "battery corrosion" was your problem...is it visible on
> the battery? Or can you see it if you peek inside the Newton'a battery
> compartment?
>>
>> There's basically 2 kinds of battery packs you could be using--alkaline and
> NiMH. Of these, the latter could either be the original one or a recelled
> version. Up until recently I would have told you that there would be no way
> that the original would still be any good, after at least 13 years...most
> likely on one end there's signs of corrosion visible around the small round
> disc.
>> (I say, "up until recently", because not long ago I won an eBay auction for
> an MP2100 that included the original NiMH battery pack...that to my amazement
> not only took a charge, but held it--in fact, I'm using it in this MP2100 on
> which I'm writing this. There's more on all this at
> http://www.newtonphoenix.org .)
>>
>> I suggest (obviously) replacing any corraded batteries...it would also be a
> good idea to expose the contacts inside the battery compartment to check them
> for signs of corrosion as well. Frank Greundel's excellent site at
> http://www.pda-soft.de/2x00_disassemble.html is a big help with
> disassembly...there's also
> http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple-Tablet-Teardown/2153/2. This last choice
> is great if you just need large pictures to look at (like you've done this a
> time or two before).
>>
>> Use household



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