[NTLK] OT/OT License/End User License Agreements - Unfair?
Ryan
newtontalk at me.com
Tue Mar 9 17:47:38 EST 2010
Hi:
I did see that discussion. I'm imterested as much in Apple's license
agreement.
Thank you,
Ryan J. Vetter
The Vetter Group
www.thevettergroup.com
1 800 985 6391
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On 2010-03-09, at 12:17 PM, Ryan <newtontalk at me.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I thought this might be a useful discussion point, and even related
> to the Newton if anyone is versed on Newton software EULA (End User
> License Agreements).
>
> I just downloaded and installed the Dragon Dictation App from the
> App Store for the iPhone. It's supposed to be one of the best apps
> on the App Store. What it does is allows you to speak to your iPhone
> and your speech will be converted to text. You can then copy and
> paste that text into your Mail program, Notes, Safari, etc. It gets
> rave reviews. But I would caution anyone to read the EULA. First,
> the agreement states that if you click except, that Nuance will
> download all of your contacts and store them on their servers. The
> reason they do this is to improve the accuracy of the speech
> recognition when you speak your contacts. They say they will not use
> the contacts in any way other than for speech recognition purposes:
> they won't contact these people. But they don't give you a choice
> before you click "Accept" to the EULA. As soon as you do that, your
> contacts will be downloaded to their servers, unless, perhaps, you
> turn off your network connectivity and go into the settings and
> turn this feature off before it can connect and download your
> contacts. I have not tried this so I don't know if it is a way to
> circumvent Nuance from downloading your contacts on first launch.
>
> Just below this clause, was another clause. It said that they
> collect and store all of your speech data. They then use the speech
> data to help improve their programs and services, and they may even
> share it with third parties under confidential agreements. That
> means that all of your speech communications is being filtered and
> stored by Nuance: everything. They go on to say that that
> information is protected, but will be released to authorities under
> court order and the like. Like most people, I wouldn't accept those
> terms, so I quit from the agreement screen and deleted the
> application.
>
> Now I just see this news story below. Apple's iPhone software
> developer agreement has been published. From what the article
> states, this is the first time that the agreement has been
> published. The only way this was possible, was from a Freedom of
> Information Act request to NASA who actually themselves developed an
> iPhone application. So Apple had no way of stopping a regular
> citizen from using the Freedom of Information Act request to obtain
> a copy of their iPhone software developer agreement. Like most
> agreements, it's pretty one-sided: it favours the contracting
> authority. In this case, it's Apple. In the case of Nuance, their
> agreement is simply unrealistic and unfair since it collects very
> sensitive, private data without giving the user a choice. In the
> case of Apple's iPhone software developer agreement, their seems to
> be a lot of things in there that would simply be unenforceable, yet
> they try to write them in anyway. Some of those things are
> themselves patently unfair and
> unrealistic, particularly the clause about Apple being able to
> reject an App, where that App would not be allowed to be circulated
> anywhere else after the rejection. That is incredibly controlling
> and closed off. Or the ban on public statements about the developer
> agreement. Apple, how secretive can you possibly get? Also, that
> Apple will not be held liable for more than $50 in damages should
> they commit themselves to an error or omission that would cause
> damages to the developer or end-user. This latter clause has Steve
> written all over it.
>
> I'd be interested to get some of your comments on developer licenses
> and EULAs, specifically Nuance's Dragon Dictation iPhone App
> agreement, and Apple's iPhone software development agreement.
>
> So here is Ryan criticizing Apple... for once...
>
> http://www.9to5mac.com/eff-iphone-sdk-342902643
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ryan
>
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