[NTLK] Newton Compact Flash - Battery Life, Alternative storage methods?

Fri Jul 6 09:12:43 EDT 2012

No, I used Paul's driver

Thanks!
~ Vladislav Korotnev

On Friday, 6 July 2012 г. at 18:01, William Maloney wrote:

> Really? You can just get a standard PCMCIA adapter, shove an SD card in and
> it works? No drivers? Any comments on battery life?
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> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Vladislav Korotnev
> <vladkorotnev at gmail.com (mailto:vladkorotnev at gmail.com)>wrote:
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> > I used a 16MB Panasonic SD from my camera. Didn't notice any performance
> > or battery issues. Tried only on the eMate tho. The adapter was a usual one
> > you can get online almost everywhere.
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> > Thanks.
> >  
> > Sent from my iSounds-enhanced iPhone
> >  
> > On 06.07.2012, at 17:11, William Maloney <william.maloney.09 at cnu.edu (mailto:william.maloney.09 at cnu.edu)>
> > wrote:
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> > > Anyone know if SD cards are compatible and if so, the battery life with
> > > those?
> > >  
> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Gavin Watson <gavin83209 at gmail.com (mailto:gavin83209 at gmail.com)>
> > wrote:
> > >  
> > > > I only used the 8 GB card for a few days before I traded, so I'm not
> > > > sure about the battery life difference. As for adapters, I use a generic
> > > > $9 PCMCIA CompactFlash adapter I bought at a local electronics store. As
> > > > I understand it, these CF adapters passively route the pins from the
> > > > PCMCIA interface to the ATA interface on the CF card, so they shouldn't
> > > > use any extra power at all. That said, a CF card that runs only at 5V
> > > > and not 3.3V might draw more power. I use rechargeable 2000 mAh AAs in a
> > > > battery tray and usually get 3-4 weeks on a charge with just my CF card
> > > > and occasionally a Wi-Fi card in use.
> > > >  
> > > > I just use folders for sorting packages on Newton OS 2. One nice thing
> > > > about NOS is that it doesn't care where you put packages. If you have a
> > > > bunch of extensions, for example, you can separate them into several
> > > > other folders and the system will find them just fine. If I have a
> > > > package that I rarely use, I'll freeze it with the button provided by
> > > > Power Prefs or a similar utility and file it in my 'Frozen' folder.
> > > >  
> > > > On 07/04/2012 08:57 PM, William Maloney wrote:
> > > > > Using something smaller was my thought too. I tried to persuade the guy
> > > >  
> > > > at
> > > > > the Best Buy that 4GB was far too much but again, twas all they had. It
> > > > > worked but again, painfully slow. A bit much for this old Newt. Doing a
> > > > > swap seems like a great idea. Someone will inevitably get a very good
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > deal!
> > > > > :)
> > > > >  
> > > > > By the way, did you notice any marked improvement with battery life
> > > > using a
> > > > > smaller card? I tried fiddling with the power settings but couldn't
> > > >  
> > > > manage
> > > > > to get it down. This card ate through double AAs much faster than
> > > > > anticipated. Does having a different CF PC-card adapter have anything
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> >  
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > with it?
> > > > >  
> > > > > A third question also -- when NewtonOS2 has quite a few packages on,
> > are
> > > > > there any programs or shells you use to help manage that much data?
> > > >  
> > > > Having
> > > > > to scroll through the extras box becomes a tad monotonous when dealing
> > > >  
> > > > with
> > > > > package after package.
> > > > >  
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Gavin Watson <gavin83209 at gmail.com (mailto:gavin83209 at gmail.com)>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > A couple of years ago, I bought a 266x 8 GB CF card with the intention
> > > > > > of using it in my Newton, but it was painfully slow. After a bit of
> > > > > > research, I traded the 8 GB card for the 50x 512 MB card in a friend's
> > > > > > camera. The 512 MB card is probably ten times faster and more stable
> > > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > >  
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> > in
> > > > > > my MP2100 and I still don't even have 30 MB of data on the card. It
> > > > > > still isn't quite as fast as linear flash, but it's at least
> > > > > >  
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> > > >  
> > >  
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> > comparable.
> > > > > > If you can find one, try a CF card in the 128-512 MB range and see if
> > > > >  
> > > >  
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> > it
> > > > > > helps.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > For battery life, there is an option in ATA Support Preferences to put
> > > > > > the card to sleep after a certain delay. Try 10 seconds or something
> > > > > > similar if you aren't already. Unlike MicroDrives, CF cards don't have
> > > > > > any moving parts, so they take almost no time to come out of sleep
> > > > > >  
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