[NTLK] IPNR and MacIP and Newton- "how-to"

From: Brian (bmcewen_at_mediaone.net)
Date: Mon Sep 24 2001 - 15:50:09 EDT


OK, I got back home, the file wsn't on my unix box, it was on the Mac all
along.

Here's the info I received from Tom last year about this.

Direct Serial in the NIE setup is the mechanism; it isn't explicitly stated
2x00 or 1x0 model MP. I will test IPNR on my setup sometime soon to decide
for myself :). I think the direct serial method works even on NOS 2.0 but
I don't wish to propagate misinformation :) that's just my as-test untested
opinion based on emails from about a year ago :)

One thing that will slow this down a touch though- according to FAQ for
IPNR, With MacOS 9.X MacIP over LOCALTALK is no longer suported. So, I
will have to make an 8.x boot folder to the testing, since I'm running 9.1.
So I need to backup some data and that sort of thing first, and sort out
all sorts of things that I shoudl have tended to long ago.

If you search the nettalk archives at www.sustworks.com for "MacIP and
Newton" authored by "Tom" you will notice he spent a lot of time tracking
down a MacIP bug on the MP; it looks like this only applies to routing
MacIP over ethernet, as in his summary, he says he can use the serial port
just fine for MacIP but he wishes it were otherwise, to avoid lots of
plug/unplug on his MP. (one other software route, from Viacom, evidently
doesn't have this issue).

And one more factiod before I quote the email: I found a reference to the
Shiva FastPath 5 (NOT version 4, it doesn't do MacIP) hardware router (only
really available on Ebay any more) but it will route ethertalk to
localtalk, including MacIP. So. For Whatever reason this thread came up
again, Ebay could be a good resource, too.

Can the following make it into the FAQ? It certainly works for NOS 2.1
perTtom, and I'll check it with 2.0 sometime soon.

If you're here, Tom, thanks much, again.

Brian
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From: Tom Sheppard <....>
To: "Brian McEwen" <....>
Mime-Version: 1.0

On 2000-03-21 22:33, Brian McEwen wrote:

>Do I have to do anything special in IPNR to enable this? I fired it up the
>other day and tried to set up any kind of service on the USB port; but I'm
>not convinced it was using the KEYSPAN USB-serial. I was sure it was
>limited to MacIP, 'cos there were only a couple options for types of
>services to provide in the IPNR setup (Appletalk (MacIP)) looked like the
>only option that was even close.

There are several things that need to be done on both the Newton, Mac and
IPNR. You will use PPP to connect to the Newton. As far as I know, only
one port at a time can use PPP services on the Mac so you can't have both
the Newton connected and a dial-up modem connected for ISP access.

Mac:

- Open the Modem control panel and choose Control via the serial port you
want (the Keyspan, I guess). I use the printer port on an old 7100.
Select a Null Modem 115200 script. If you don't have any Null Modem
scripts, let me know and I'll send you one. The other options I have set
to Sound On, Dialing Tone and Ignore Dial Tone unchecked. Close this
control panel.

- Open the Remote Access control panel and create a configuration for
your Keyspan. Call it whatever you want. Select Guest, leave DialAssist
unchecked and Number empty. Click the Options... button and ignore the
first two tabs. On the Protocol tab verify that Use Protocol is set to
PPP. I have Connect Automatically unchecked, Allow error correction and
TCP Header Compression checked and Connect To Command Line Host
unchecked. Close this control panel.

- Ensure IPNR is not running. Open the TCP/IP control panel and create a
new configuration which MUST be called IPNetRouter. Select Manual
configuration and give it an IP address of a network you're not already
using. My local Ethernet LAN is set to 192.168.0.1 so I set the IP
address to 192.168.1.1. You can ignore the other fields. Switch back to
your previous configuration and save the IPNetRouter one when asked to do
so. Close this control panel.

IPNR:

- Start up IPNR and open the Interfaces window. Select PPP for the
Interface, enter 192.168.1.1 (or whatever you set in the TCP/IP
IPNetRouter setup), the subnet mask (I use 255.255.255.0). Check only
Bring Up. Hold down the Option key and click Add. The option key prevents
IPNR from attempting to establish the PPP connection at this time.

- Open the Gateway window and decide if you want Dial On Demand and Show
PPP Dialogs checked. See the window help for more info. I have both
unchecked.

Newton:

- Create an Internet Setting file which uses direct serial. Give it a
static IP address on the same network you choose for IPNetRouter. I used
192.168.1.2. The default gateway is the same address you choose in
IPNetRouter. Set the DNS servers and domain to whatever you want. I
ignored the User name. Decide when you want the connection to drop on
closing an app (I chose Never). Add an Advanced setting of 115200, no
parity, 1 stop bit, hardware flow control.

- Connect the serial cable between the Newton and the Mac.

- Open up WebHopper, or any other app which will initiate a connection.
Call up a web page somewhere which causes the routing slip to pop up.
Choose to connect with the direct serial setup you just defined. Tell it
to connect.

IPNR:

- Immediately after intiating the connection on the Newton, click Connect
on the IPNR Interfaces window. You PPP connection should be established
and the web page displayed.

Whew! That's a lot of setup. You can save the IPNR configuration. I found
the darn thing always seems to try to establish the PPP connection when
it's next launched. Perhaps saving with Bring Up unchecked would stop
this problem.

You can disconnect by telling IPNR to Disconnect or close the Newton App
and tell it to drop the connection.

To reestablish the connection, just follow the last few steps to connect
between the Newton and IPNR.

Hope this works for you. See the SustWorks web site for more help on
configuring PPP. You're on your own if you want to try DHCP. :-)

...Tom

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