Re: [NTLK] Re[2]: Re[2]: Convincing argument against MS

From: Laurent Daudelin (
Date: Tue Jun 11 2002 - 12:22:11 EDT

On 11/06/02 12:02, "Bradford Schmidt" <> wrote:

> Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 11:30:41 AM, Laurent wrote:
>>> Exactly - just read their policy about supporting the "old" ATI
>>> chipset in OS X. The installed base of that chip in powerbooks alone
>>> (I'm one of them) is huge. And they just dropped it. So any video in
>>> OS X sucks ass on that chip.
>>> But hey, isn't this really NEW mac "incredibly cool?"
>> Check <>. Here is an
>> excerpt:
>> "Application Improvements:
>> - Increased stability of Mail and Sherlock.
>> - Emails are properly retained when rebuilding the Draft mailbox.
>> - Support for 2D and QuickTime hardware acceleration for Rage Pro.
>> [...]"
>> So, apparently, Apple hasn't given up yet on the old chipset...
> That's just the Rage Pro - LT not included (wall street, lombard). Go
> here to see what they say:
> 106154
> WHat's interseting is that the verbiage which now reads further dev
> will be "investigated" used to read as follows:
> "Use the latest version of Mac OS X for best overall performance and
> feature set. Further Mac OS X support for the graphic accelerator
> chipsets listed above is not planned."
> These include the ATI RAGE II+, ATI RAGE IIc, ATI RAGE Pro, ATI RAGE
> Pro Turbo, ATI RAGE LT Pro and ATI RAGE Mobility. You can actually
> read the information about this here:


Those are old documents that predate 10.1.5. From the latest technical note
I mentioned, I take it that Rage Pro includes all "Pro" ATI chipset, but not
the II+ or the IIc.

My only question: have you tried to play a QuickTime movie full screen on


Laurent Daudelin              Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae             Washington, DC, USA
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