Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100

From: James Mackey (
Date: Thu Jun 27 2002 - 12:21:46 EDT


No, the bottom of the implant has only 4 flush-fitting points which could
nothave contacted anything significant. A motherboard swap might be
necessary. The case is in great shape, and the screen and backlight are in
mint condition. It would be a waste to not use that Newt again. I'll keep


>From: "Johannes Wolf" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject:
Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100 >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:57:07 +0200
>>>Oh, Oh, bad news. >>But you did not answer my question if you isolated
theImplant to the logic >board - I mean if you put something non-conductive
inbetween the Implant PCB >and the logic board? >If not you have surely
caused an short cut on the logic board which caused >serious damage. >For
instance I could imagine that the oscillator circuit on the logic board >is
damaged - so the Newt will not have any clock ... >>I would recommend to get
some of the cheap and worn Newts for $55 and >replace the logic board. But
this should be done by somebody with >experience. >If you cannot find
somebody near to you I am willing to help you (I have >already done that a
few times). The bad thing is the shipping costs to >Europe and back (I
assumethat you are located in the U.S.) >>Regards >Johannes >>>-----Original
Message----- >>From:
>>[]On Behalf Of James Mackey >>Sent:
Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:24 PM >>To: >>Subject:
Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100 >>>>>>>>>>Well, I pulled the SER-001
and put it in my other Newt. I de-soldered the >>Implant and put the
originalcrystal back and let it sit >>overnight. It still >>doesn't turn on
or make any noises. :( >>>>>From: "Johannes Wolf" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: >>Re: [NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead
2100 >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 >>08:42:23 +0200 >>>>>So what is the behaviour
of yor Newt now? >No sound and no screen after >>startup? >>After reading
what you did I really wonder if you isolated the >>implant PCB >and its
connections properly while experimenting >>with different >>positions of
>theimplant. That you closed the nack cover with an >>imperceptable bulge
>indicated that the implant PCB must have been pressed >>hardly against the
>logic board. >There is a good chance that you >>introduced >>a shortcut
between implant and >logic board. >>I would recommend >>to do what >>you
already proposed: replace the crystal and >remove all implant >>connections.
>To be safe you can also remove the SER-001, but >>this board is >>for sure
NOT >the reason for the behaviour of your Newt. >>Johannes
>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>From:
>>>>[]On Behalf Of James >>Mackey
>>Sent: >>Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:22 AM >>To:
>>Subject: >>[NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies/dead 2100 >>>>>>>>>>I had an Implant
accel and an >>SER-001 in it. The flip-cover would not stay >>back in the
locked position >>(imperceptable bulge of the back >>case) so I was
>>experimenting with >>several alternate locaitons for the accelerator. So
now >>the Newt won't >>boot, and it failed to recover after an overnight
hiatus >>(following the >>instructions on the FAQ). I don't know if anything
inside >>might have >>touched and caused the problem. Maybe I was too
>>greedy. That >>Newt >>was my >>skanky daily driver, and it would be nice
ifit could be recovered. >>All >>theinternal connectors are still secure and
I removed and >>reinstalled >>the >>PCB card and SER-001 without any luck. I
might try de-soldering the >>>>Implantand putting the old crystal back to
seeif it was the part that >>>>failed. >>>>JM >>>>>From: James Elliott
>Reply-To: >> >To: >>
>Subject: Re: >>[NTLK] Newton 4 Newbies >>site >Date: >>Wed, 26 Jun 2002
19:22:16 -0400 >>>>>What sort of hotrodding were you up to? >>>>-James >>>It
looks >>like quite >>a useful site. The J&K Sales link >>will come >>in
handy. I >>need to get >>another 2100 after I murdered one of mine
>>yesterday. I was >>probably >>asking for trouble by hotrodding the
hardware>>toomuch. >>>>JM >>>>>-- >Read >>the List FAQ/Etiquette:
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