Re: [NTLK] Shell Access + www4mail.org = Surfing the web on your

From: Steve Weyer (saweyer_at_comcast.net)
Date: Sat Dec 06 2003 - 03:57:12 PST


> Date: 5 Dec 2003 10:01:01 -0800
> Subject: Re: [NTLK] Shell Access + www4mail.org = Surfing the web on
> your
> From: "RAParker" <RAParker_at_Quadzilla.NET>
>

I understand about the memory issues. esp. on MP120 with only 1 PCMCIA
slot and limited heap. (instead of NIE 2.0, you could try NIE 1.1)

> I've been reading about the features for www4mail. This sounds like
> what's
> going on. www4mail recodes the buttons and links so that clicking on
> one
> creates a new email with link you requested (browser dependent, of
> course).
>
>> Newt's Cape contacts
>> an intermediary server (or proxy) to handle the request. this can be
>> a
>> mail-based service (like www4mail.org) or http: proxy.
>
> I'm still a little confused about proxy servers...I'm going to have to
> read
> up on them and find out how it fits into the Newton dial-up scheme. Do
> you
> connect to a proxy server in real time to request the info? or Just
> make
> requests from the proxy server and it mails you the info (like
> www4mail)?
>

for http: servers, it assumes a real-time connection. for mail proxy,
Newt's Cape adds an email message to your Outbox which you send next
time you connect.

>
>> here's some info about setting it up
>> http://home.comcast.net/~saweyer/newton/newtscape/docs/
>> userintf.htm#Proxy
>
> More data! Great stuff, thank you!
>>

>> Newt's Cape can read HTML from messages in Inbox. File: Open Inbox.
>
> Wow! I haven't tried receiving full HTML, but Newts Cape makes it sound
> like it could be possible now. With pictures too? I need more time,
> more
> storage space. I must check this out.
>
>> it might be able to read GIF or JPEG files, though this
>> depends on how they're encoded/stored by the email client
>
> I've received a gif via email and GoFetch receives a plain-text, MIME
> encoded message but GoFetch cannot read MIME so all I see is the
> (garbage)
> text of the encoded attachment. www4mail has quite a number of options
> available so I imagine it's just a matter of getting Newts Cape and
> playing
> with it. More time...need more storage!

it _might_ work but you're right, memory (esp. heap) could be a major
problem, assuming that Newt's Cape recognizes the encoded pictures in
first place. (this has worked with SimpleMail, and I think I had done
some testing with another email client, perhaps GoFetch, but each
client seemed to store/handle attachments differently). it would
definitely be cool if it worked but I wouldn't get your hopes up...

>> Sloup
>> wasn't complete enough to handle real backup or sync -- you'd be
>> better
>> off with some of the other data transfer tools.
>
> Probably to pie-in-the-sky to hope for syncing and backing up over a
> dialup
> connection. What I really want to do is to simply upload (or mail) a
> tab
> delimited or comma seperated file without linebreaks, so that I could
> update my contacts, appointments, notes, to-do's etc. on MyYahoo!
> account
> quickly and easily. I'm still working on that one.
>
by default, Sloup generates tab-delimited files, with line breaks to
delimit records; these are customizable. still, it was oriented around
generating directly to a serial stream rather than to a "file" so it
wouldn't work as is with dialup.

> Ron

Steve
weyer_at_kagi.com
http://communicrossings.com/

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